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<blockquote data-quote="Sir Whiskers" data-source="post: 1267950" data-attributes="member: 6941"><p>Few actions are good or evil, in and of themselves. The most common example is killing another human being. Circumstances matter. Of course, even with this caveat, removing another sentient being's will is pretty close (IMHO) to inherently evil. My personal view is that domination is on a level with torture - it may be truly necessary on rare occasions, but it should never be acceptable. It's simply too easy to abuse and the emotional scars to the victim too deep.</p><p></p><p>1. The victim's alignment is unimportant - the question is "Why do you want the information"? If you want it so you can break into his home, steal all his possessions, kill his family, and otherwise make a nuisance of yourself, well...No. If, on the other hand, he has information concerning a plot to assassinate the king, and other methods don't work, he may be fair game. Think of it as using drugs to facilitate interrogation - they shouldn't be used in most cases, but a few rare cases might be justified.</p><p></p><p>2. This is trickier - I suppose in a truly desperate case it could be justified, but consider the flip side: what if an opponent dominated you and made you fight your friends? I suspect you would most certainly consider that evil. Even if your opponent was simply a "grunt" in an opposing army, doing his job fighting for his country, how would you feel about being forced to attack and kill your comrades? I can't see this one being acceptable.</p><p></p><p>3. NOPE, NOPE, NOPE. Free will should as sacrosanct as life - dominating another sentient being so that he does what you think is "Good" is truly evil. First, it assumes the dominating being is infallible and omniscient. Second, even so, it simply turns a sentient being into a robot (or golem). Evil.</p><p></p><p>4. See the answer to question 1. Even so, other means should be tried first.</p><p></p><p>5. Sorry, but the fact that someone "needs" something someone has doesn't justify taking it, whether through threats, torture, domination, or whatever.</p><p></p><p>6. But can the consequences be trivial to the victim? Nope, not allowed.</p><p></p><p>7. See answer 3.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind that my answers tend to focus on how domination would be viewed in the real world. In a particular game world, morality could be very different. And if I were playing a board game (not role-playing), I wouldn't hesitate for a moment to use all my units' abilities.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sir Whiskers, post: 1267950, member: 6941"] Few actions are good or evil, in and of themselves. The most common example is killing another human being. Circumstances matter. Of course, even with this caveat, removing another sentient being's will is pretty close (IMHO) to inherently evil. My personal view is that domination is on a level with torture - it may be truly necessary on rare occasions, but it should never be acceptable. It's simply too easy to abuse and the emotional scars to the victim too deep. 1. The victim's alignment is unimportant - the question is "Why do you want the information"? If you want it so you can break into his home, steal all his possessions, kill his family, and otherwise make a nuisance of yourself, well...No. If, on the other hand, he has information concerning a plot to assassinate the king, and other methods don't work, he may be fair game. Think of it as using drugs to facilitate interrogation - they shouldn't be used in most cases, but a few rare cases might be justified. 2. This is trickier - I suppose in a truly desperate case it could be justified, but consider the flip side: what if an opponent dominated you and made you fight your friends? I suspect you would most certainly consider that evil. Even if your opponent was simply a "grunt" in an opposing army, doing his job fighting for his country, how would you feel about being forced to attack and kill your comrades? I can't see this one being acceptable. 3. NOPE, NOPE, NOPE. Free will should as sacrosanct as life - dominating another sentient being so that he does what you think is "Good" is truly evil. First, it assumes the dominating being is infallible and omniscient. Second, even so, it simply turns a sentient being into a robot (or golem). Evil. 4. See the answer to question 1. Even so, other means should be tried first. 5. Sorry, but the fact that someone "needs" something someone has doesn't justify taking it, whether through threats, torture, domination, or whatever. 6. But can the consequences be trivial to the victim? Nope, not allowed. 7. See answer 3. Keep in mind that my answers tend to focus on how domination would be viewed in the real world. In a particular game world, morality could be very different. And if I were playing a board game (not role-playing), I wouldn't hesitate for a moment to use all my units' abilities. [/QUOTE]
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