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<blockquote data-quote="Creeping Death" data-source="post: 1267966" data-attributes="member: 253"><p> <ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><br /> No, but torturing for information would be. Wouldn't this kind of basically be the same as reading their mind without their permission.<br /> <br /> This situation is a little trickier. This is something that an evil person would do and I can think of a ton of ways this is evil and a ton of ways this is not. i.e. Evil wizard using a device summons a demon. Good party dominates henchman and has him destroy artifact, thus banishing the demon, no problem. Dominating an ogre and having him wipeout the band of orcs he's with, then you are treading on thin ice.<br /> <br /> Hmmm.... this is not real reform, this is robbing the evil opponent of choice. Something that I think the good would greatly value. This is not something that I would view as justice but as slavery. Let justice be served whether that is prison or death.<br /> <br /> Here you are basically asking if the ends justify the means. You should read the Book of Vile Darkness for some examples of this. I look at evil in degrees. The first time or two, slight shift toward evil. Repeated uses makes the user a bully. Let's say the non-evil person is neutral. He doesn't care about that village or the dragon, but now you are forcing him to cooperate. There's that force thing. Good doesn't force people to do anything. Good also doesn't just sit back and let evil have free reign either.<br /> <br /> This is no different than an evil person dominating a good person for his own ends. This in my mind is clearly evil. You can't just throw dominations around for convenience sake. Let's dominate Uncle scrooge and have him donate his entire fortune to my church. It's going for a good cause. Ends almost never justify the means, that path leads to tyranny.<br /> <br /> Evil, you are stealing his ability to chose, to be his/her own being.<br /> <br /> Evil, you are stealing his ability to chose, to be his/her own being.</li> </ol><p></p><p>While "Evil, you are stealing his ability to chose, to be his/her own being." can be used for all of the examples above, I hope that by drawing some paralells, you see that there is some gray area that does make this statement not apply.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Creeping Death, post: 1267966, member: 253"] [list=1] No, but torturing for information would be. Wouldn't this kind of basically be the same as reading their mind without their permission. This situation is a little trickier. This is something that an evil person would do and I can think of a ton of ways this is evil and a ton of ways this is not. i.e. Evil wizard using a device summons a demon. Good party dominates henchman and has him destroy artifact, thus banishing the demon, no problem. Dominating an ogre and having him wipeout the band of orcs he's with, then you are treading on thin ice. Hmmm.... this is not real reform, this is robbing the evil opponent of choice. Something that I think the good would greatly value. This is not something that I would view as justice but as slavery. Let justice be served whether that is prison or death. Here you are basically asking if the ends justify the means. You should read the Book of Vile Darkness for some examples of this. I look at evil in degrees. The first time or two, slight shift toward evil. Repeated uses makes the user a bully. Let's say the non-evil person is neutral. He doesn't care about that village or the dragon, but now you are forcing him to cooperate. There's that force thing. Good doesn't force people to do anything. Good also doesn't just sit back and let evil have free reign either. This is no different than an evil person dominating a good person for his own ends. This in my mind is clearly evil. You can't just throw dominations around for convenience sake. Let's dominate Uncle scrooge and have him donate his entire fortune to my church. It's going for a good cause. Ends almost never justify the means, that path leads to tyranny. Evil, you are stealing his ability to chose, to be his/her own being. Evil, you are stealing his ability to chose, to be his/her own being.[/list] While "Evil, you are stealing his ability to chose, to be his/her own being." can be used for all of the examples above, I hope that by drawing some paralells, you see that there is some gray area that does make this statement not apply. [/QUOTE]
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