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<blockquote data-quote="pennywiz" data-source="post: 1822838" data-attributes="member: 1488"><p>You'll love this, then.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You might be right in your feeling. I'd caution you to expand that a bit since no one, publisher or fan, is restricted in whether they can contribute derivative material or wholly new OGC. There's really no distinction made within the license(s) between publisher and fan in regard to how they are required to use the license(s), as far as I recall. As far as "reprisal" is concerned, there is mention of that and it doesn't have seperate rules for publisher and fan either.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's only one of ethics if you disagree with the potential result of the legal actuality. Those who have no problem with the legal truth, don't need to bring ethics into the discussion.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What leads you to believe that things will be any different in the future than they have been in the past? Some companies have always tied up their OGC with PI and IP in a way that made it difficult to extract, while others have not. None of this has lead to the wholesale stripmining of OGC. It's doubtful that it ever will and even more doubtful that it would have any effect on any person, company, or the market as a whole. My evidence is the last four years. What is your evidence?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I won't post for others but I have been saying that there are some companies that tie up OGC with PI and IP in a way that makes extraction difficult, and I have said that others companies could follow suit if they wished, but I am also saying that I don't think that it would matter. My evidence is the last four years. What is your evidence?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's a straw man. You are putting forth an assumption, and attributing less than ideal motives to those who disagree with you, in an effort to bolster your own position and denegrade those who disagree with you. Don't do that. People see through that sort of tactic, they call you on it, and it only serves to make you look bad and weaken your position.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Funny how the licenses have survived just fine regardless of the ethical arguments being raised and without trying to put a social stigma on how someone chooses to use the license. I, myself, like the license(s) just fine the way they are and think that people can negotiate their usage just fine without other poeple trying to restrict thier fair usage through imposing their own ethics and morals on others. Some people believe that a person's word, and the contracts they agree to honor, are the best way to judge someone's ethical and moral nature.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pennywiz, post: 1822838, member: 1488"] You'll love this, then. You might be right in your feeling. I'd caution you to expand that a bit since no one, publisher or fan, is restricted in whether they can contribute derivative material or wholly new OGC. There's really no distinction made within the license(s) between publisher and fan in regard to how they are required to use the license(s), as far as I recall. As far as "reprisal" is concerned, there is mention of that and it doesn't have seperate rules for publisher and fan either. It's only one of ethics if you disagree with the potential result of the legal actuality. Those who have no problem with the legal truth, don't need to bring ethics into the discussion. What leads you to believe that things will be any different in the future than they have been in the past? Some companies have always tied up their OGC with PI and IP in a way that made it difficult to extract, while others have not. None of this has lead to the wholesale stripmining of OGC. It's doubtful that it ever will and even more doubtful that it would have any effect on any person, company, or the market as a whole. My evidence is the last four years. What is your evidence? I won't post for others but I have been saying that there are some companies that tie up OGC with PI and IP in a way that makes extraction difficult, and I have said that others companies could follow suit if they wished, but I am also saying that I don't think that it would matter. My evidence is the last four years. What is your evidence? That's a straw man. You are putting forth an assumption, and attributing less than ideal motives to those who disagree with you, in an effort to bolster your own position and denegrade those who disagree with you. Don't do that. People see through that sort of tactic, they call you on it, and it only serves to make you look bad and weaken your position. Funny how the licenses have survived just fine regardless of the ethical arguments being raised and without trying to put a social stigma on how someone chooses to use the license. I, myself, like the license(s) just fine the way they are and think that people can negotiate their usage just fine without other poeple trying to restrict thier fair usage through imposing their own ethics and morals on others. Some people believe that a person's word, and the contracts they agree to honor, are the best way to judge someone's ethical and moral nature. [/QUOTE]
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