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Is the Evocation Wizard better at being a damage Sorcerer than a Sorcerer?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7179006" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>And yet what did you contribute except to complain about complaints?</p><p></p><p>My criticism was directly on point as to why the wizard does outshine the sorcerer in blasting when both are trying. It's specifically because those features in the sorcerer that lead people to expect it to be the best don't actually work as the appear -- in short, the class is poorly realized for it's stated goals. Now, that said, the class does do very well if used off-axis, but this is mostly due to unanticipated interaction rather than stated design intent. The Sorc makes the absolute best buffer, and is exceptional at crowd control (even with limited spell availability). This is largely due to the interaction of twin spell and careful spell, though, and not any of the other class features. That this doesn't appear as the class design intent is why I say the class isn't well realized. Sorcerer does good stuff, but it's mostly not the stuff on the tin.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 7179006, member: 16814"] And yet what did you contribute except to complain about complaints? My criticism was directly on point as to why the wizard does outshine the sorcerer in blasting when both are trying. It's specifically because those features in the sorcerer that lead people to expect it to be the best don't actually work as the appear -- in short, the class is poorly realized for it's stated goals. Now, that said, the class does do very well if used off-axis, but this is mostly due to unanticipated interaction rather than stated design intent. The Sorc makes the absolute best buffer, and is exceptional at crowd control (even with limited spell availability). This is largely due to the interaction of twin spell and careful spell, though, and not any of the other class features. That this doesn't appear as the class design intent is why I say the class isn't well realized. Sorcerer does good stuff, but it's mostly not the stuff on the tin. [/QUOTE]
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