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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 4995968" data-attributes="member: 29398"><p>My only question is this: at the base design level, why does the game's math have to be so fine-tuned that the mere presence or absence of a feat or two at high levels could potentially throw the whole thing off the rails? Whether this is good design or bad is irrelevant as a result, but I wonder if there was a bit too much design put into the process - that it got a bit too fine-tuned for its own good.</p><p></p><p>And, doesn't this also defeat the whole philosophy of "there are no bad choices", if the game by its own design can't handle compounding bad or suboptimal choices at high level? Again, no right or wrong here, as in any game in any edition it still comes down to the DM to tweak the opposition to what the party can handle...well, most of the time. What's worth taking away here is that even in 4e, where it's been designed to somewhat run itself, those tweaks might still be needed depending on the long-term choices of the players when advancing their characters.</p><p></p><p>Lan-"the randomness of dice can butcher the best mathematical models"-efan</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 4995968, member: 29398"] My only question is this: at the base design level, why does the game's math have to be so fine-tuned that the mere presence or absence of a feat or two at high levels could potentially throw the whole thing off the rails? Whether this is good design or bad is irrelevant as a result, but I wonder if there was a bit too much design put into the process - that it got a bit too fine-tuned for its own good. And, doesn't this also defeat the whole philosophy of "there are no bad choices", if the game by its own design can't handle compounding bad or suboptimal choices at high level? Again, no right or wrong here, as in any game in any edition it still comes down to the DM to tweak the opposition to what the party can handle...well, most of the time. What's worth taking away here is that even in 4e, where it's been designed to somewhat run itself, those tweaks might still be needed depending on the long-term choices of the players when advancing their characters. Lan-"the randomness of dice can butcher the best mathematical models"-efan [/QUOTE]
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