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Is there a History of how the Phylactery and Liches came to be?
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<blockquote data-quote="Tovec" data-source="post: 5828856" data-attributes="member: 95493"><p>Based on a quick wiki and internet search I would agree with most of this but not all.</p><p></p><p>Re: Insanity - I think he meant evil. The answer to "do they automatically become evil" I think it has to do with the nature of becoming a lich that it is an expressly evil act to WANT to do it, regardless if you succeed. Think Voldemort, he is a lich - had phylacteries and everything. You ARE evil if you want to do it at all.</p><p></p><p>I agree, as far as "nothing to prevent it" thing. A lich is a dead body that still moves, thinks, talks and functions. Unless it is kept from rotting it will.</p><p></p><p></p><p>About that..</p><p>Um, well, it all depends on the setting. In general lichdom isn't a boon bestowed upon a mage, it is something they work toward - sometimes taking most of their life so that they can work on their real tasks in an afterlife.</p><p>As far as I know, it (in a classic sense - non-DnD) is something that is known and takes years to accomplish. It is a dark art which mages simply should not do, but do in order to become immortal. Asking "if they discovered how on their own" is like asking about the origins of the first vampire. Some will say deal with the devil, others will give a story about infection from bats, or perhaps it was that he drank too much blood, or that hell spat him out, or god punished him, etc.</p><p></p><p>Re: Is it a public device - Where did you get that? I have seen nothing suggesting it is public, well known or partially accepted to have a phylactery - in DnD. Then again, in the real world, a phylactery is a charm, amulet or bobble used for protection so I guess they could have other forms. Or you could make other forms. But generally any device which houses a soul is going to be a rare, unique and awesome thing not just a random bobble.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tovec, post: 5828856, member: 95493"] Based on a quick wiki and internet search I would agree with most of this but not all. Re: Insanity - I think he meant evil. The answer to "do they automatically become evil" I think it has to do with the nature of becoming a lich that it is an expressly evil act to WANT to do it, regardless if you succeed. Think Voldemort, he is a lich - had phylacteries and everything. You ARE evil if you want to do it at all. I agree, as far as "nothing to prevent it" thing. A lich is a dead body that still moves, thinks, talks and functions. Unless it is kept from rotting it will. About that.. Um, well, it all depends on the setting. In general lichdom isn't a boon bestowed upon a mage, it is something they work toward - sometimes taking most of their life so that they can work on their real tasks in an afterlife. As far as I know, it (in a classic sense - non-DnD) is something that is known and takes years to accomplish. It is a dark art which mages simply should not do, but do in order to become immortal. Asking "if they discovered how on their own" is like asking about the origins of the first vampire. Some will say deal with the devil, others will give a story about infection from bats, or perhaps it was that he drank too much blood, or that hell spat him out, or god punished him, etc. Re: Is it a public device - Where did you get that? I have seen nothing suggesting it is public, well known or partially accepted to have a phylactery - in DnD. Then again, in the real world, a phylactery is a charm, amulet or bobble used for protection so I guess they could have other forms. Or you could make other forms. But generally any device which houses a soul is going to be a rare, unique and awesome thing not just a random bobble. [/QUOTE]
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