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<blockquote data-quote="sebecloki" data-source="post: 8719473" data-attributes="member: 6676162"><p>Just to add to this some more -- I think I'm unusual in my exhaustion with the character op game, because I actually really like complex rules. I just like the klunky, non-elegant stuff from the 1990s like Earthdawn 1e, Rolemaster, Palladium Fantasy 2e, and Players Options Skills and Powers (certainly no kind of elegant design, and not even compatible with the other players options books really). I loved and played the 2.5 stuff, and was really excited for 3.0 in 2000 because it let us do stuff like play halfling and dwarf wizards for the first time, and had prestige classes for casting thieves and other concepts you couldn't really do in 2e. I just play rogues and rogue/fighters mainly. I don't care about being the strongest party member. I made assassin characters because I liked Artemis Entreri from the Drizzt novels, not because it was a good prestige class. I was just excited there were rules for assassins again for the first time since 1st edition (I guess they were in Scarlet Brotherhood, but that was very late, and not really a core book anyway). I started with 2e, and there were lots of kit options, but there were racial character level maximums and classes you couldn't pick if you were, for example, a dwarf. There were no half orcs. 3.0 was so exciting because it brought back stuff from 1e -- there were no TSR fan sites and you couldn't easily buy the old books. I had to photocopy assassin from the library copy of 1e, and could only play thief acrobats and cavaliers when I got together with a cousin who owned unearthed arcana. But 3.0 just had all this new stuff I'd been wanting to do forever. It was an exciting time!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sebecloki, post: 8719473, member: 6676162"] Just to add to this some more -- I think I'm unusual in my exhaustion with the character op game, because I actually really like complex rules. I just like the klunky, non-elegant stuff from the 1990s like Earthdawn 1e, Rolemaster, Palladium Fantasy 2e, and Players Options Skills and Powers (certainly no kind of elegant design, and not even compatible with the other players options books really). I loved and played the 2.5 stuff, and was really excited for 3.0 in 2000 because it let us do stuff like play halfling and dwarf wizards for the first time, and had prestige classes for casting thieves and other concepts you couldn't really do in 2e. I just play rogues and rogue/fighters mainly. I don't care about being the strongest party member. I made assassin characters because I liked Artemis Entreri from the Drizzt novels, not because it was a good prestige class. I was just excited there were rules for assassins again for the first time since 1st edition (I guess they were in Scarlet Brotherhood, but that was very late, and not really a core book anyway). I started with 2e, and there were lots of kit options, but there were racial character level maximums and classes you couldn't pick if you were, for example, a dwarf. There were no half orcs. 3.0 was so exciting because it brought back stuff from 1e -- there were no TSR fan sites and you couldn't easily buy the old books. I had to photocopy assassin from the library copy of 1e, and could only play thief acrobats and cavaliers when I got together with a cousin who owned unearthed arcana. But 3.0 just had all this new stuff I'd been wanting to do forever. It was an exciting time! [/QUOTE]
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