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<blockquote data-quote="Falling Icicle" data-source="post: 6874935" data-attributes="member: 17077"><p>I'm joining this discussion a bit late, but there's something I'd like to add regarding the warlock's spell slots. There are quite a few spells that don't scale with higher level slots, such as detect thoughts, misty step, suggestion, hypnotic pattern, Evard's black tentacles, etc. When a warlock has higher level slots and casts these spells, that extra spell power is effectively wasted. It matters if someone tries to counterspell or dispel them, but that's very situational and doesn't come up very often. A wizard or sorcerer can just cast a spell like suggestion using a 2nd level slot - no problem. If a warlock wants to cast it, he can only spend one of his precious couple of slots, and the fact that it's a 5th level slot usually doesn't matter.</p><p></p><p>Even a ring of spell storing doesn't really help the warlock with this issue. Once he reaches 9th+ level, the spell uses a 5th level slot and fills up all of the space in the ring, whether he wants it to or not. A wizard can put two 2nd level misty steps and a 1st level shield in the ring. A warlock can only put a 5th level misty step into the ring, which is a waste since a 5th level misty step has no more effect than a 2nd level one.</p><p></p><p>This could be regarded as more of a problem with the spells themselves than the warlock class (there are too many spells that don't scale with slot level). It affects other spellcasters as well, such as when a wizard is out of 1st level slots and has to waste a higher level slot casting it, but it affects warlocks more than other spellcasters because they don't have any lower level slots to spend.</p><p></p><p>Still, I think warlocks are a really cool class, despite their flaws.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Falling Icicle, post: 6874935, member: 17077"] I'm joining this discussion a bit late, but there's something I'd like to add regarding the warlock's spell slots. There are quite a few spells that don't scale with higher level slots, such as detect thoughts, misty step, suggestion, hypnotic pattern, Evard's black tentacles, etc. When a warlock has higher level slots and casts these spells, that extra spell power is effectively wasted. It matters if someone tries to counterspell or dispel them, but that's very situational and doesn't come up very often. A wizard or sorcerer can just cast a spell like suggestion using a 2nd level slot - no problem. If a warlock wants to cast it, he can only spend one of his precious couple of slots, and the fact that it's a 5th level slot usually doesn't matter. Even a ring of spell storing doesn't really help the warlock with this issue. Once he reaches 9th+ level, the spell uses a 5th level slot and fills up all of the space in the ring, whether he wants it to or not. A wizard can put two 2nd level misty steps and a 1st level shield in the ring. A warlock can only put a 5th level misty step into the ring, which is a waste since a 5th level misty step has no more effect than a 2nd level one. This could be regarded as more of a problem with the spells themselves than the warlock class (there are too many spells that don't scale with slot level). It affects other spellcasters as well, such as when a wizard is out of 1st level slots and has to waste a higher level slot casting it, but it affects warlocks more than other spellcasters because they don't have any lower level slots to spend. Still, I think warlocks are a really cool class, despite their flaws. [/QUOTE]
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