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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 8875300" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>Yeah, I was just pointing out that that site is wrong.</p><p></p><p>Encounter calculation <strong>requires </strong>several judgement calls by the DM. It's not just a strict mathematical formula.</p><p></p><p>Part of the calculations is to assess whether a monster presents a 'significant' challenge to the PCs. Mathematical formulas can't do that, only a person can. If the monsters dont present a significant challenge, then they dont count at Step 4 for multiplication purposes. You still add in its XP value, but you dont multiply overall XP on account of its presence.</p><p></p><p>Sahuagin are AC 12, 22 HP, 2 x Attacks at +3 to hit.</p><p></p><p>For a 5th level+ party, that's trivial. Assuming a standard party of...</p><p></p><p>1) GWM Barbarian or Fighter</p><p>2) Thief Rogue</p><p>3) Life Cleric</p><p>4: Evoker Wizard</p><p></p><p>...Should be killing 3-4 of them each and every round, <em>without </em>expending any resources (relying on cantrips and at-will attacks). Return attacks from the Sahuagin are targeting ACs of 16-18, with Blood Frenzy on some of those attacks so a roughly [45 percent hit chance] x [9] or 4 damage per Sahaugin in return.</p><p></p><p>With no resource expenditure by the PCs, a group of 6 Sahaugin are killed in two rounds, likely with minimal damage caused in return (easily healed by the Cleric, or with a Short rest and a few HD). <em>With </em>resource expenditure (fireball for example) it's over in a single round.</p><p></p><p>Generally speaking, they don't significantly contribute to the difficulty of the encounter, so they should be ignored when it comes to multiplication for multiple monsters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 8875300, member: 6788736"] Yeah, I was just pointing out that that site is wrong. Encounter calculation [B]requires [/B]several judgement calls by the DM. It's not just a strict mathematical formula. Part of the calculations is to assess whether a monster presents a 'significant' challenge to the PCs. Mathematical formulas can't do that, only a person can. If the monsters dont present a significant challenge, then they dont count at Step 4 for multiplication purposes. You still add in its XP value, but you dont multiply overall XP on account of its presence. Sahuagin are AC 12, 22 HP, 2 x Attacks at +3 to hit. For a 5th level+ party, that's trivial. Assuming a standard party of... 1) GWM Barbarian or Fighter 2) Thief Rogue 3) Life Cleric 4: Evoker Wizard ...Should be killing 3-4 of them each and every round, [I]without [/I]expending any resources (relying on cantrips and at-will attacks). Return attacks from the Sahuagin are targeting ACs of 16-18, with Blood Frenzy on some of those attacks so a roughly [45 percent hit chance] x [9] or 4 damage per Sahaugin in return. With no resource expenditure by the PCs, a group of 6 Sahaugin are killed in two rounds, likely with minimal damage caused in return (easily healed by the Cleric, or with a Short rest and a few HD). [I]With [/I]resource expenditure (fireball for example) it's over in a single round. Generally speaking, they don't significantly contribute to the difficulty of the encounter, so they should be ignored when it comes to multiplication for multiple monsters. [/QUOTE]
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