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<blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 5848424" data-attributes="member: 2205"><p>No, actually I just find your comments very curious in that Matai Shang's motivation is both shown on screen throughout the entire movie, and he even gave John Carter the "evil villain monologue" at one point. Your claim that it was incoherent and inscrutible is probably best explained by you either falling asleep during at least the villain monologue scene and not paying much attention during the rest of the movie, or having gotten too big a drink and needing to take a bathroom break halfway through or something.</p><p></p><p>It's just bizarre.</p><p></p><p>No, I just disagree that it's incoherent, especially in the way that you claim, that the villains have inscrutible motivations and agendas. Either <em>you're</em> being disingenious and you haven't actually seen this movie, or you weren't paying attention. Or you accidentally went to a showing in a language you don't speak or something.</p><p></p><p>I'm really not trying to troll you here, I just don't know how in the world you can say that the villains were "inscrutible" when the movie went to rather blatant pains to make them not so.</p><p></p><p>See, now you're just getting snarky again. Plus, you've ascribed to me a claim I didn't make. All I'm claiming is that the villains weren't inscrutible and the plot wasn't incoherent.</p><p></p><p>The fact that you still can't--despite I thought fairly clear demarcation in this thread already--tell the difference between what was claimed to be in the books and what was claimed to be original to the movie is, if anything, further evidence that the "inscrutibleness" and "incoherence" of your experience with this movie had very little to do with the movie itself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Desdichado, post: 5848424, member: 2205"] No, actually I just find your comments very curious in that Matai Shang's motivation is both shown on screen throughout the entire movie, and he even gave John Carter the "evil villain monologue" at one point. Your claim that it was incoherent and inscrutible is probably best explained by you either falling asleep during at least the villain monologue scene and not paying much attention during the rest of the movie, or having gotten too big a drink and needing to take a bathroom break halfway through or something. It's just bizarre. No, I just disagree that it's incoherent, especially in the way that you claim, that the villains have inscrutible motivations and agendas. Either [I]you're[/I] being disingenious and you haven't actually seen this movie, or you weren't paying attention. Or you accidentally went to a showing in a language you don't speak or something. I'm really not trying to troll you here, I just don't know how in the world you can say that the villains were "inscrutible" when the movie went to rather blatant pains to make them not so. See, now you're just getting snarky again. Plus, you've ascribed to me a claim I didn't make. All I'm claiming is that the villains weren't inscrutible and the plot wasn't incoherent. The fact that you still can't--despite I thought fairly clear demarcation in this thread already--tell the difference between what was claimed to be in the books and what was claimed to be original to the movie is, if anything, further evidence that the "inscrutibleness" and "incoherence" of your experience with this movie had very little to do with the movie itself. [/QUOTE]
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