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<blockquote data-quote="Morrus" data-source="post: 5876534" data-attributes="member: 1"><p><span style="font-size: 12px">[align=right]http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/13agelogo.jpg[/align]An interesting press release dropped into my inbox in the wee hours of this morning. It seems that<strong> Jonathan Tweet</strong> (lead designer on D&D 3E) and <strong>Rob Heinsoo</strong> (D&D 4E) have joined forced to create what they call their "love letter to their favorite dungeon-crawling fantasy game".</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">While I don't currently know any more than what's in the release (which I've posted below in full), it talks of "a toolkit of rules that you can pick and choose from based on the kind of game you want to play", which is the type of verbiage we've heard coming out of WotC recently. And when Heinsoo says "I realized that together, Jonathan and I could make the version of the classic dungeon-crawling fantasy adventure game that we both really wanted to play now" it does sound like they're aiming straight at the post-4E market. With a release date of August 2012, it will beat D&D 5E by at least a year.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Wade Rocket, who is handling the marketing for the game, said in his email to me: "Rob told me in our first conversation that they don't see 13th Age as something to play instead of 5e. Obviously it can be played as a standalone game, but DMs can also approach it as a collection of Rob and Jonathan's house rules for FRPGs, to pick and choose from as they see fit. When they call 13th Age a "love letter" to their favorite fantasy game (as the Heinsoo-penned playtest blurb says) it's not marketing fluff -- it's central to how they think of the game."</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Here's the full release:</span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">Veteran Game Designers Rob Heinsoo and Jonathan Tweet Announce 13th Age: a “Love Letter” to Their Favorite Dungeon-Crawling Fantasy Game</span></strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px">Upcoming game to combine old-school aesthetics with innovations in independent game design</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px">Seattle, WA— This past weekend, Jonathan Tweet – lead designer of Dungeons & Dragons® third edition – spoke publicly for the first time about 13th Age, the new fantasy roleplaying game that he is designing with Rob Heinsoo, the lead designer of the fourth edition of D&D®.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px">"Our goal with 13th Age is to recapture the free-wheeling style of old-school gaming by creating a game with more soul and fewer technical details,” said Tweet, who spoke alongside other game industry veterans on panels at Norwescon 35, a fantasy, science fiction and gaming convention in Seattle.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px">Tweet continued, “13th Age makes the play group’s campaign the center of attention, with a toolkit of rules that you can pick and choose from based on the kind of game you want to play. The mechanics of 13th Age draw from classic games as well as newer, story-based games.”</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px">Players of 13th Age take the roles of fortune-seeking adventurers in a world where powerful individuals called Icons pursue goals that may preserve an ancient empire that teeters on the brink of chaos, or destroy it. When players create their characters, they decide which Icons their adventurers ally with, and which ones they oppose. These relationships, along with a personal history and a unique trait chosen during character creation, help define an adventurer’s place in the world of 13th Age and lay the groundwork for epic stories that emerge through play.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px">[align=right]http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/13age1.jpg[/align]An early draft of 13th Age is being playtested by more than 200 gaming groups around the world. The game will be published in August 2012 by Pelgrane Press under an Open Game License that will allow other designers to take advantage of its contents to create their own products.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px">Although they can’t yet share details about 13th Age to others, playtesters have been enthusiastic about it on online message forums. Playtester Adam Dray said, “Tonight, the one player who comes to the game for mostly social reasons said after a test combat, ‘That was fun!’ and engaged with her character in a deeper way than she ever has.” </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px">Another playester, Eric Provost, said simply, "I want to play this until I can't play anymore."</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px">Rob Heinsoo says that the idea for the game grew out of his and Tweet’s experiences playing together in the same Seattle gaming group. “I realized that together, Jonathan and I could make the version of the classic dungeon-crawling fantasy adventure game that we both really wanted to play now. Also, if we found the right publisher, we could entertain other people in the process. We’re very fortunate to be working with Pelgrane Press, which has a history of publishing high-concept, artistically daring games. They're giving us complete freedom as designers to make the game that we've envisioned."</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px">Simon Rogers of Pelgrane Press says, “I’ve been playing roleplaying games now for more than 30 years, and publishing them for nearly a dozen, so it’s an honor and pleasure to be working with these two games design powerhouses and publishing the results of their collaboration.”</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px">The official source for information about the 13th Age roleplaying game on the Web is </span><a href="http://www.pelgranepress.com/site/?p=7649" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 12px">http://www.pelgranepress.com/site/?p=7649</span></a></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">About Rob Heinsoo</span></strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px">Rob Heinsoo has created dozens of role-playing games, card games, miniatures games and board games. He led the design of the fourth edition of Dungeons & Dragons® and wrote or led the design of many 4e sourcebooks. Rob has just released the critically acclaimed card game Epic Spell Wars of the Battle Wizards: Duel at Mt. Skullzfyre. Other recent game designs include THREE-DRAGON ANTE, THREE-DRAGON ANTE: Emperor's Gambit, Inn-Fighting, Dreamblade, FORGOTTEN REALMS® Campaign Setting, and the first nine sets of D&D Miniatures®. Games he worked on in the 90’s that have aged well include Shadowfist, Feng Shui, and King of Dragon Pass.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">About Jonathan Tweet</span></strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px">Jonathan Tweet has been creating games professionally for 25 years. He created or co-created the roleplaying games Ars Magica (1987), Over the Edge (1992), and Everway (1995). He started writing for Dungeons & Dragons in 1992, and in 2000 he became the lead designer of the game's third edition. In addition to roleplaying games, Jonathan has created and contributed to card games, miniatures games, computer games, and fiction. His games have won three Origins Awards, and he is in the Origins Award Hall of Fame.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">About Pelgrane Press</span></strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px">Pelgrane Press publishes award-winning tabletop roleplaying games, including Trail of Cthulhu and Night’s Black Agents by Kenneth Hite, The Dying Earth and Ashen Stars by Robin D. Laws. Pelgrane Press is also the home of the webzine Page XX, the Stone Skin Press fiction imprint, The Birds comic and music for RPGs by James Semple and fellow composers.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 12px"><img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/13age2.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em><span style="font-size: 12px">In the world of 13th Age, the magic of the Archmage has held the Dragon Empire together for centuries - but unpredictable forces have risen to challenge him.</span></em></p><p></p><p> </p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 12px"><img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/13age3.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em><span style="font-size: 12px">Centuries ago the previous Orc Lord helped bring down the Lich King. Who will the new Orc Lord bring down this time?</span></em></p><p></p><p> </p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 12px"><img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/13age4.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em><span style="font-size: 12px">A champion of the Wild. the High Druid might shake the Empire to pieces or point to a new way to live.</span></em></p><p></p><p> </p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 12px"><img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/13age5.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em><span style="font-size: 12px">The Lich King was a powerful wizard who ruled the land in ancient times, and has risen from the dead to reclaim it.</span></em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Morrus, post: 5876534, member: 1"] [SIZE=3][align=right]http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/13agelogo.jpg[/align]An interesting press release dropped into my inbox in the wee hours of this morning. It seems that[B] Jonathan Tweet[/B] (lead designer on D&D 3E) and [B]Rob Heinsoo[/B] (D&D 4E) have joined forced to create what they call their "love letter to their favorite dungeon-crawling fantasy game".[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]While I don't currently know any more than what's in the release (which I've posted below in full), it talks of "a toolkit of rules that you can pick and choose from based on the kind of game you want to play", which is the type of verbiage we've heard coming out of WotC recently. And when Heinsoo says "I realized that together, Jonathan and I could make the version of the classic dungeon-crawling fantasy adventure game that we both really wanted to play now" it does sound like they're aiming straight at the post-4E market. With a release date of August 2012, it will beat D&D 5E by at least a year.[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Wade Rocket, who is handling the marketing for the game, said in his email to me: "Rob told me in our first conversation that they don't see 13th Age as something to play instead of 5e. Obviously it can be played as a standalone game, but DMs can also approach it as a collection of Rob and Jonathan's house rules for FRPGs, to pick and choose from as they see fit. When they call 13th Age a "love letter" to their favorite fantasy game (as the Heinsoo-penned playtest blurb says) it's not marketing fluff -- it's central to how they think of the game."[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Here's the full release:[/SIZE] [INDENT][B][SIZE=3]Veteran Game Designers Rob Heinsoo and Jonathan Tweet Announce 13th Age: a “Love Letter” to Their Favorite Dungeon-Crawling Fantasy Game[/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3]Upcoming game to combine old-school aesthetics with innovations in independent game design[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Seattle, WA— This past weekend, Jonathan Tweet – lead designer of Dungeons & Dragons® third edition – spoke publicly for the first time about 13th Age, the new fantasy roleplaying game that he is designing with Rob Heinsoo, the lead designer of the fourth edition of D&D®.[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]"Our goal with 13th Age is to recapture the free-wheeling style of old-school gaming by creating a game with more soul and fewer technical details,” said Tweet, who spoke alongside other game industry veterans on panels at Norwescon 35, a fantasy, science fiction and gaming convention in Seattle.[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Tweet continued, “13th Age makes the play group’s campaign the center of attention, with a toolkit of rules that you can pick and choose from based on the kind of game you want to play. The mechanics of 13th Age draw from classic games as well as newer, story-based games.”[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Players of 13th Age take the roles of fortune-seeking adventurers in a world where powerful individuals called Icons pursue goals that may preserve an ancient empire that teeters on the brink of chaos, or destroy it. When players create their characters, they decide which Icons their adventurers ally with, and which ones they oppose. These relationships, along with a personal history and a unique trait chosen during character creation, help define an adventurer’s place in the world of 13th Age and lay the groundwork for epic stories that emerge through play.[/SIZE] [SIZE=3][align=right]http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/13age1.jpg[/align]An early draft of 13th Age is being playtested by more than 200 gaming groups around the world. The game will be published in August 2012 by Pelgrane Press under an Open Game License that will allow other designers to take advantage of its contents to create their own products.[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Although they can’t yet share details about 13th Age to others, playtesters have been enthusiastic about it on online message forums. Playtester Adam Dray said, “Tonight, the one player who comes to the game for mostly social reasons said after a test combat, ‘That was fun!’ and engaged with her character in a deeper way than she ever has.” [/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Another playester, Eric Provost, said simply, "I want to play this until I can't play anymore."[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Rob Heinsoo says that the idea for the game grew out of his and Tweet’s experiences playing together in the same Seattle gaming group. “I realized that together, Jonathan and I could make the version of the classic dungeon-crawling fantasy adventure game that we both really wanted to play now. Also, if we found the right publisher, we could entertain other people in the process. We’re very fortunate to be working with Pelgrane Press, which has a history of publishing high-concept, artistically daring games. They're giving us complete freedom as designers to make the game that we've envisioned."[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Simon Rogers of Pelgrane Press says, “I’ve been playing roleplaying games now for more than 30 years, and publishing them for nearly a dozen, so it’s an honor and pleasure to be working with these two games design powerhouses and publishing the results of their collaboration.”[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]The official source for information about the 13th Age roleplaying game on the Web is [/SIZE][URL="http://www.pelgranepress.com/site/?p=7649"][SIZE=3]http://www.pelgranepress.com/site/?p=7649[/SIZE][/URL] [B][SIZE=3]About Rob Heinsoo[/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3]Rob Heinsoo has created dozens of role-playing games, card games, miniatures games and board games. He led the design of the fourth edition of Dungeons & Dragons® and wrote or led the design of many 4e sourcebooks. Rob has just released the critically acclaimed card game Epic Spell Wars of the Battle Wizards: Duel at Mt. Skullzfyre. Other recent game designs include THREE-DRAGON ANTE, THREE-DRAGON ANTE: Emperor's Gambit, Inn-Fighting, Dreamblade, FORGOTTEN REALMS® Campaign Setting, and the first nine sets of D&D Miniatures®. Games he worked on in the 90’s that have aged well include Shadowfist, Feng Shui, and King of Dragon Pass.[/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3]About Jonathan Tweet[/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3]Jonathan Tweet has been creating games professionally for 25 years. He created or co-created the roleplaying games Ars Magica (1987), Over the Edge (1992), and Everway (1995). He started writing for Dungeons & Dragons in 1992, and in 2000 he became the lead designer of the game's third edition. In addition to roleplaying games, Jonathan has created and contributed to card games, miniatures games, computer games, and fiction. His games have won three Origins Awards, and he is in the Origins Award Hall of Fame.[/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3]About Pelgrane Press[/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3]Pelgrane Press publishes award-winning tabletop roleplaying games, including Trail of Cthulhu and Night’s Black Agents by Kenneth Hite, The Dying Earth and Ashen Stars by Robin D. Laws. Pelgrane Press is also the home of the webzine Page XX, the Stone Skin Press fiction imprint, The Birds comic and music for RPGs by James Semple and fellow composers.[/SIZE] [/INDENT][CENTER][SIZE=3][IMG]http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/13age2.jpg[/IMG][/SIZE] [I][SIZE=3]In the world of 13th Age, the magic of the Archmage has held the Dragon Empire together for centuries - but unpredictable forces have risen to challenge him.[/SIZE][/I][/CENTER] [CENTER][SIZE=3][IMG]http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/13age3.jpg[/IMG][/SIZE] [I][SIZE=3]Centuries ago the previous Orc Lord helped bring down the Lich King. Who will the new Orc Lord bring down this time?[/SIZE][/I][/CENTER] [CENTER][SIZE=3][IMG]http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/13age4.jpg[/IMG][/SIZE] [I][SIZE=3]A champion of the Wild. the High Druid might shake the Empire to pieces or point to a new way to live.[/SIZE][/I][/CENTER] [CENTER][SIZE=3][IMG]http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/13age5.jpg[/IMG][/SIZE] [I][SIZE=3]The Lich King was a powerful wizard who ruled the land in ancient times, and has risen from the dead to reclaim it.[/SIZE][/I][/CENTER] [/QUOTE]
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