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<blockquote data-quote="Mark CMG" data-source="post: 5882484" data-attributes="member: 10479"><p>It isn't the case at all and I didn't assume that in the slightest but we clearly disagree where the problems lie, you suggesting they are external and me suggesting they lie within.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There's no evidence of this in regard to tabletop RPGs and I'm not of a belief that they were putting a significant dent in the D&D marketshare any more so than the other games that have come and gone since the Seventies when folks first began trying to compete with D&D. I also don't believe that the tabletop RPG market is a zero sum situation. I don't believe that the market cannot grow to accomodate many good games and I question the motivations of any company that reacts to market forces with such a mentality.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Naw, I won't be comparing the tanletop RPG market to the non-tabletop market, CRPGs, MMORPGs, console games, etc. (I addressed tabletop RPGs above). There's no comparing tabletop RPGs to non-tabletop RPGs except in superficial ways, and there's no realistic way to claim that the customers of one are lost customers to the other, IMO. Clearly, it might be one of the internal mistakes/problems of WotC, to make this comparison and believe it is something they can address. But I am of a belief that it isn't really something you can do anything about directly. It's like wondering why people spend money (that they don't spend on food, shelter and clothing) on hammers and wrenches. Sure, they're both tools but they serve different needs and you'd be foolish to believe that if you put a wrench-like opening on a hammerhead you'd put a dent in the wrench market. You'd also wind up with a crappier, gimmicky hammer. I agree it is possible that some in the tabletop RPG business may not yet have learned this lesson.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I believe evidence points toward the OGL being a huge success for 3.XE for the time that WotC embraced it. I'm not convince there is any real evidence or argument against it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark CMG, post: 5882484, member: 10479"] It isn't the case at all and I didn't assume that in the slightest but we clearly disagree where the problems lie, you suggesting they are external and me suggesting they lie within. There's no evidence of this in regard to tabletop RPGs and I'm not of a belief that they were putting a significant dent in the D&D marketshare any more so than the other games that have come and gone since the Seventies when folks first began trying to compete with D&D. I also don't believe that the tabletop RPG market is a zero sum situation. I don't believe that the market cannot grow to accomodate many good games and I question the motivations of any company that reacts to market forces with such a mentality. Naw, I won't be comparing the tanletop RPG market to the non-tabletop market, CRPGs, MMORPGs, console games, etc. (I addressed tabletop RPGs above). There's no comparing tabletop RPGs to non-tabletop RPGs except in superficial ways, and there's no realistic way to claim that the customers of one are lost customers to the other, IMO. Clearly, it might be one of the internal mistakes/problems of WotC, to make this comparison and believe it is something they can address. But I am of a belief that it isn't really something you can do anything about directly. It's like wondering why people spend money (that they don't spend on food, shelter and clothing) on hammers and wrenches. Sure, they're both tools but they serve different needs and you'd be foolish to believe that if you put a wrench-like opening on a hammerhead you'd put a dent in the wrench market. You'd also wind up with a crappier, gimmicky hammer. I agree it is possible that some in the tabletop RPG business may not yet have learned this lesson. I believe evidence points toward the OGL being a huge success for 3.XE for the time that WotC embraced it. I'm not convince there is any real evidence or argument against it. [/QUOTE]
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