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Jonathan Tweet & Rob Heinsoo: Making their own 5th Edition?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mark CMG" data-source="post: 5882954" data-attributes="member: 10479"><p>I'm afraid your basic premise of a perceived "risk" is the fundamental difference between our views. I've outlined my points in previous posts and do not see much benefit in simply repeating them.</p><p></p><p>I will mention that I disagree that a company of their size needs to have cyclical layoffs built into their business model. I think there are obvious problems that are derived from doing so and that those chickens have been coming home to roost for some time now, and that would be happening with or without the OGL. I think your intention of casting a dislike of corporate policies as an edition war is disingenuous, as do I think that your suggestion that finding such policies as foolish means one must think they are evil. Those are both specious arguments and I'd appreciate you drop them or take them elsewhere. They won't gain any traction with me as I do not carry either flag. I further believe your acceptance of such corporate policies as a given to be ill-advised. We cannot get into politics and I've seen moderators here request such things not be delved into too deeply but we both probably have some opinions about the ties between corporations and governments and what that does to the overall economy as well as individual lives. Let's just say it ain't pretty and leave it at that. You seem accepting of it and I thoroughly disgree, so I don't think such discussions are fruitful in any event.</p><p></p><p>Here's a few additional questions that are worth mulling over for anyone following or participating in this discussion. Does Hackmaster use the OGL? Could someone run D&D-esque games with Hackmaster? If Paizo had been boxed out of 4.XE without the OGL could they have created another system to use with the Adventure Paths they began while being annointed with the Dragon and Dungeon magazine licensing? Particularly with their staff of former WotC employees? We could argue the percentages but I think we both would basically agree on the answers to the above questions.</p><p></p><p>Thank you for the detailed response. I appreciate your position even though we disgree on many of the issues involved. The one thing we know for sure, the OGL is out there now. Ignoring it is what seems risky to me given what we know now about its strengths.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark CMG, post: 5882954, member: 10479"] I'm afraid your basic premise of a perceived "risk" is the fundamental difference between our views. I've outlined my points in previous posts and do not see much benefit in simply repeating them. I will mention that I disagree that a company of their size needs to have cyclical layoffs built into their business model. I think there are obvious problems that are derived from doing so and that those chickens have been coming home to roost for some time now, and that would be happening with or without the OGL. I think your intention of casting a dislike of corporate policies as an edition war is disingenuous, as do I think that your suggestion that finding such policies as foolish means one must think they are evil. Those are both specious arguments and I'd appreciate you drop them or take them elsewhere. They won't gain any traction with me as I do not carry either flag. I further believe your acceptance of such corporate policies as a given to be ill-advised. We cannot get into politics and I've seen moderators here request such things not be delved into too deeply but we both probably have some opinions about the ties between corporations and governments and what that does to the overall economy as well as individual lives. Let's just say it ain't pretty and leave it at that. You seem accepting of it and I thoroughly disgree, so I don't think such discussions are fruitful in any event. Here's a few additional questions that are worth mulling over for anyone following or participating in this discussion. Does Hackmaster use the OGL? Could someone run D&D-esque games with Hackmaster? If Paizo had been boxed out of 4.XE without the OGL could they have created another system to use with the Adventure Paths they began while being annointed with the Dragon and Dungeon magazine licensing? Particularly with their staff of former WotC employees? We could argue the percentages but I think we both would basically agree on the answers to the above questions. Thank you for the detailed response. I appreciate your position even though we disgree on many of the issues involved. The one thing we know for sure, the OGL is out there now. Ignoring it is what seems risky to me given what we know now about its strengths. [/QUOTE]
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