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<blockquote data-quote="Dogbrain" data-source="post: 1512629" data-attributes="member: 14980"><p>It was outlawed--during the Third Reich. The Ratzis hated <em>Mensur</em> and the fraternities. They were prone to accepting anybody as full-fledged members without doing a racial background check.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I knew I had forgotten something when I hit the "submit" button. What I meant to say is that if you look at the manuals, you'll see that the practitioners were always portrayed as having arms like Popeye the sailor. That's no exaggeration. You have to do so much with your arm extended or partially extended that the forearms have to do inhuman amounts of work. A good rapier physique is not a natural human physique.</p><p> </p><p>Someone with the practice and athleticism needed would be quite an effective and deadly opponent, but that aint me.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>The shape also put the center of percussion further back from the point than for a cutting sword, so you sacrifice even more distance to cut than with a cutting sword.</p><p></p><p>but suffice it to say that humans don't always go the right direction in warfare historically just because of true efficiency (c'mon... Patton sabers delivering thrusting attacks at a full charge on horseback? That had to hurt the wrist a bit</p></blockquote><p></p><p>Patton's sabre was never used in combat. However, the British sabre that it was based on was used in combat. It had a bad habit of burying itself to the hilt in the first enemy you hit on the charge, becoming quite impossible to use.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Dogbrain, post: 1512629, member: 14980"] It was outlawed--during the Third Reich. The Ratzis hated [I]Mensur[/I] and the fraternities. They were prone to accepting anybody as full-fledged members without doing a racial background check. I knew I had forgotten something when I hit the "submit" button. What I meant to say is that if you look at the manuals, you'll see that the practitioners were always portrayed as having arms like Popeye the sailor. That's no exaggeration. You have to do so much with your arm extended or partially extended that the forearms have to do inhuman amounts of work. A good rapier physique is not a natural human physique. Someone with the practice and athleticism needed would be quite an effective and deadly opponent, but that aint me. The shape also put the center of percussion further back from the point than for a cutting sword, so you sacrifice even more distance to cut than with a cutting sword. but suffice it to say that humans don't always go the right direction in warfare historically just because of true efficiency (c'mon... Patton sabers delivering thrusting attacks at a full charge on horseback? That had to hurt the wrist a bit[/QUOTE] Patton's sabre was never used in combat. However, the British sabre that it was based on was used in combat. It had a bad habit of burying itself to the hilt in the first enemy you hit on the charge, becoming quite impossible to use. [/QUOTE]
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