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<blockquote data-quote="PMárk" data-source="post: 7715770" data-attributes="member: 6804619"><p>Sigh... I understand your confusion, welcome to the wonderful clusterf*ck soap opera, which is woD's publication history since the early 2000's...</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I'll try to encompass it into something short.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The story goes like that:</p><p></p><p>1. The old WoD setting and rules system ended in 2004. They did the time of judgement books, then shut down the whole thing. It was dead after that. Although plenty of people played it after that and didn't switch for the new thing.</p><p></p><p>2. After that, they published the New WoD (it was just WoD, but everyone dubbed it 'new'). It wasn't a sequel to old WoD, not even a reboot, it was a total reimagining of the old lines into new games, like Vampire the Requiem and Mage The Awakening. It worked with the same concepts (a game about vampires in the modern world, etc.), but it was very different from WoD and again had nothing to do with the old game, but some names and concepts and the core of the rules (d10s, dots on the sheet, etc.). NWoD had a some years of good run.</p><p></p><p>3. Much later, and I will skip some thing here (among them the axing of the MMo and firing nearly everyone from WW itself, by CCG), to keep my sanity, Onyx Path ( a small publishing company, consisting of old WW guard and new talents) picked up the WW rpg tabletop line as a licence and started making new books again. Among them, they did the Vampire 20th anniversary edition, which was planned really as such, a love letter to old fans. however it became a big success and led to the revival of all the old games. Werewolf, Mage and recently Changeling (with Wraith in the works) got their 20ths and multiple supplements and met approval from the fanbase. So, after a while, the old WoD and new WoD ran with side to side, similar games, but with different focus and largely a different fanbase, different setting, etc. They're just different games, Like Pathfinder and D&D are different games. </p><p></p><p>4. Recently, Paradox bought WW and there is a new WW crew, who are developing the new edition of WoD, which will be the continuation of the old, while the new WoD (now called the Chronicles of Darkness, for better brand differentiation) will remain Onyx Path's thing. OP will also do the 20ths to the point when their new editions will come out. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Simply ask what they're talking about? Masquerade/Ascension/Apocalypse? It's OWoD, likely with the 20th rulesets, sine those are the current editions of OWoD, but it could be that they're playing one of the older editions still. If they talked about Traditions (in the sense of Mage), it's likely be OWoD.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See above. Yes it was like that for a while, but in the past 6-7 years the OWoD and NWoD are both officially continued and supported. Although, the 20ths don't have much in the metaplot department. The upcoming new edition will advance the metaplot yet again.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, absolutely! VtR doesn't have a continuous metaplot. All the NWoD (now CofD) games are essentially sandbox-focused, that's one of the main differences between the two lines. </p><p></p><p>I hope it helped. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PMárk, post: 7715770, member: 6804619"] Sigh... I understand your confusion, welcome to the wonderful clusterf*ck soap opera, which is woD's publication history since the early 2000's... Anyway, I'll try to encompass it into something short. The story goes like that: 1. The old WoD setting and rules system ended in 2004. They did the time of judgement books, then shut down the whole thing. It was dead after that. Although plenty of people played it after that and didn't switch for the new thing. 2. After that, they published the New WoD (it was just WoD, but everyone dubbed it 'new'). It wasn't a sequel to old WoD, not even a reboot, it was a total reimagining of the old lines into new games, like Vampire the Requiem and Mage The Awakening. It worked with the same concepts (a game about vampires in the modern world, etc.), but it was very different from WoD and again had nothing to do with the old game, but some names and concepts and the core of the rules (d10s, dots on the sheet, etc.). NWoD had a some years of good run. 3. Much later, and I will skip some thing here (among them the axing of the MMo and firing nearly everyone from WW itself, by CCG), to keep my sanity, Onyx Path ( a small publishing company, consisting of old WW guard and new talents) picked up the WW rpg tabletop line as a licence and started making new books again. Among them, they did the Vampire 20th anniversary edition, which was planned really as such, a love letter to old fans. however it became a big success and led to the revival of all the old games. Werewolf, Mage and recently Changeling (with Wraith in the works) got their 20ths and multiple supplements and met approval from the fanbase. So, after a while, the old WoD and new WoD ran with side to side, similar games, but with different focus and largely a different fanbase, different setting, etc. They're just different games, Like Pathfinder and D&D are different games. 4. Recently, Paradox bought WW and there is a new WW crew, who are developing the new edition of WoD, which will be the continuation of the old, while the new WoD (now called the Chronicles of Darkness, for better brand differentiation) will remain Onyx Path's thing. OP will also do the 20ths to the point when their new editions will come out. Simply ask what they're talking about? Masquerade/Ascension/Apocalypse? It's OWoD, likely with the 20th rulesets, sine those are the current editions of OWoD, but it could be that they're playing one of the older editions still. If they talked about Traditions (in the sense of Mage), it's likely be OWoD. See above. Yes it was like that for a while, but in the past 6-7 years the OWoD and NWoD are both officially continued and supported. Although, the 20ths don't have much in the metaplot department. The upcoming new edition will advance the metaplot yet again. Yes, absolutely! VtR doesn't have a continuous metaplot. All the NWoD (now CofD) games are essentially sandbox-focused, that's one of the main differences between the two lines. I hope it helped. :) [/QUOTE]
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