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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 6003256" data-attributes="member: 463"><p>My preferred approach is to either give the information automatically in response to a request, or else use low DCs, but only give a roll in response to relevant action - so if you are playing Sherlock Holmes, put a few points into relevant skills, and if you ask the right questions you will likely auto-succeed.</p><p></p><p>I don't like players expecting to auto-pilot through an adventure, merely rolling dice on request. I once had a situation in 4e where the PCs had captured an obviously evil dwarf slaver. He offered to help them vs his bandit allies, if they returned his crossbow. I used an "I am an obviously lying sonofabitch" evil dwarf slaver voice. The PCs happily returned his crossbow, no one requested an Insight check - and when they encountered the bandits, they were very surprised when the evil dwarf started shooting at the PCs! <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /></p><p></p><p>Some players complained - they said I should have had him make a Bluff check, and have them make Insight rolls, then when one of them succeeded I should have <em>told the players he was lying</em> - without any PC even having raised that as a possibility! Well, screw that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 6003256, member: 463"] My preferred approach is to either give the information automatically in response to a request, or else use low DCs, but only give a roll in response to relevant action - so if you are playing Sherlock Holmes, put a few points into relevant skills, and if you ask the right questions you will likely auto-succeed. I don't like players expecting to auto-pilot through an adventure, merely rolling dice on request. I once had a situation in 4e where the PCs had captured an obviously evil dwarf slaver. He offered to help them vs his bandit allies, if they returned his crossbow. I used an "I am an obviously lying sonofabitch" evil dwarf slaver voice. The PCs happily returned his crossbow, no one requested an Insight check - and when they encountered the bandits, they were very surprised when the evil dwarf started shooting at the PCs! :erm: Some players complained - they said I should have had him make a Bluff check, and have them make Insight rolls, then when one of them succeeded I should have [I]told the players he was lying[/I] - without any PC even having raised that as a possibility! Well, screw that. [/QUOTE]
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