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<blockquote data-quote="Matthan" data-source="post: 7720980" data-attributes="member: 20005"><p>More thoughts: </p><p></p><p>For a print booklet in the USA, you need to pledge $5/month. If it ships bimonthly, that means $10 for a 20 page pamphlet. That doesn't strike me as a great deal. </p><p></p><p>I recently purchased Kobold's latest book (Demon Cults & Secret Societies). It's a fantastic book. Fun to read and full of inspiration for the game. It's 176 pages. Let's round up to 180 to make the math simple (what's 4 pages between friends). 180/20 = 9 Warlock pamphlets (1 Warlock pamphlet = 20 pages). To pay for 9 Warlock pamphlets, it would cost the consumer $90 which includes shipping. The cost for the hardback, full color Demon Cults & Secret Societies is $40. I bought a scratch and dent copy from their webstore a few weeks back for a couple dollars off, but that gave me a shipping cost of $5.12 (round down to $5). $45 for a hardback full color book vs. $90 for 9 loose B+W pamphlets. You're paying twice as much to get your game content in these pamphlets. I can't get behind that model. </p><p></p><p>The numbers look better for a PDF. The book's PDF is $18 for 180 full color pages. The Warlock pamphlet is $2/each ($1/month). 9 Warlock PDFs = $18 which is right in line with their other material. I can support that. </p><p></p><p>I have no idea on costs for printing such a small pamphlet. I was about to run down numbers for printing/shipping and realized that was insulting to the professionals who are putting this together. I'm sure they've ran their numbers and have set sustainable goals. This just strikes me as a nostalgic 'zine, and I just don't have the nostalgia for that. I'm intrigued by the content so I'll toss $1/month their way to see the pdf, but it sure seems that EN5ider has a better model for its producers and better bargain for its customers. </p><p></p><p>I want to end with a disclaimer because this came out awfully negative. I have signed up for the patreon at the lowest level. I want to see the creators involved to succeed and flourish. I happily contribute to EN5ider both for their content and their commitment to pay their talent the best they can. EN5ider produces content suitable for printing, but does not incur that cost themselves to better sustain their product and its producers. I want Kobold Press to succeed and do not understand their decision to take on the costs of printing and shipping pamphlets.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Matthan, post: 7720980, member: 20005"] More thoughts: For a print booklet in the USA, you need to pledge $5/month. If it ships bimonthly, that means $10 for a 20 page pamphlet. That doesn't strike me as a great deal. I recently purchased Kobold's latest book (Demon Cults & Secret Societies). It's a fantastic book. Fun to read and full of inspiration for the game. It's 176 pages. Let's round up to 180 to make the math simple (what's 4 pages between friends). 180/20 = 9 Warlock pamphlets (1 Warlock pamphlet = 20 pages). To pay for 9 Warlock pamphlets, it would cost the consumer $90 which includes shipping. The cost for the hardback, full color Demon Cults & Secret Societies is $40. I bought a scratch and dent copy from their webstore a few weeks back for a couple dollars off, but that gave me a shipping cost of $5.12 (round down to $5). $45 for a hardback full color book vs. $90 for 9 loose B+W pamphlets. You're paying twice as much to get your game content in these pamphlets. I can't get behind that model. The numbers look better for a PDF. The book's PDF is $18 for 180 full color pages. The Warlock pamphlet is $2/each ($1/month). 9 Warlock PDFs = $18 which is right in line with their other material. I can support that. I have no idea on costs for printing such a small pamphlet. I was about to run down numbers for printing/shipping and realized that was insulting to the professionals who are putting this together. I'm sure they've ran their numbers and have set sustainable goals. This just strikes me as a nostalgic 'zine, and I just don't have the nostalgia for that. I'm intrigued by the content so I'll toss $1/month their way to see the pdf, but it sure seems that EN5ider has a better model for its producers and better bargain for its customers. I want to end with a disclaimer because this came out awfully negative. I have signed up for the patreon at the lowest level. I want to see the creators involved to succeed and flourish. I happily contribute to EN5ider both for their content and their commitment to pay their talent the best they can. EN5ider produces content suitable for printing, but does not incur that cost themselves to better sustain their product and its producers. I want Kobold Press to succeed and do not understand their decision to take on the costs of printing and shipping pamphlets. [/QUOTE]
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