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<blockquote data-quote="Blackwarder" data-source="post: 5918449" data-attributes="member: 6688285"><p>I'm not trying to be offensive but I'm sorry but that's a load of crap, if the wizard in my group cast sleep on that goblin and than the player strip it of its armor and slash his throat is it still a 6 level monster? And what about a goblin shaman? Do we have to make sure that it's AC is 20 to make sure he is a high enough monster? Fact is that monster design does not start and ends with AC, I'll go further and say that I completely dislike 4e way of monster design where monsters where forced into a small encounter nish while not changing the actual challenge of the encounter (and I used to love it in the first year until I realized that the game doesn't change over the sessions).</p><p></p><p>I had a lot of games where my players encountered goblin/Orc/giant tribes where there were several variant of said monster so there could be normal goblins, bodyguards with one more hd, +1 to hit, with better saves and maybe wearing better armor, shamans with more hd and spells and better saves, etc...</p><p>So they were higher level monsters because they were more lethal and capable than their lesser cousins, not because they had better armor.</p><p></p><p>Warder</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blackwarder, post: 5918449, member: 6688285"] I'm not trying to be offensive but I'm sorry but that's a load of crap, if the wizard in my group cast sleep on that goblin and than the player strip it of its armor and slash his throat is it still a 6 level monster? And what about a goblin shaman? Do we have to make sure that it's AC is 20 to make sure he is a high enough monster? Fact is that monster design does not start and ends with AC, I'll go further and say that I completely dislike 4e way of monster design where monsters where forced into a small encounter nish while not changing the actual challenge of the encounter (and I used to love it in the first year until I realized that the game doesn't change over the sessions). I had a lot of games where my players encountered goblin/Orc/giant tribes where there were several variant of said monster so there could be normal goblins, bodyguards with one more hd, +1 to hit, with better saves and maybe wearing better armor, shamans with more hd and spells and better saves, etc... So they were higher level monsters because they were more lethal and capable than their lesser cousins, not because they had better armor. Warder [/QUOTE]
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