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L&L: Putting the Vance in Vancian
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<blockquote data-quote="Odhanan" data-source="post: 5834192" data-attributes="member: 12324"><p>You're making a mistake in thinking that Rules Cyclopedia = OD&D (1974). These are not the same games. Rules Cyclopedia was published in 1991, and is the compilation of the Basic, Expert, Companion and Master rules which started to get published by TSR in 1983. </p><p></p><p>Rules Cyclopedia... </p><p></p><p><img src="http://www.tsrinfo.net/archive/dd/dd-rc.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Comes from this... </p><p></p><p><img src="http://doctorstrangeroll.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/dd-bbox.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Which is Mentzer, or BECMI D&D. </p><p></p><p>OD&D (1974) is this: </p><p></p><p><img src="http://www.theherofactory.com/OriginalDnD.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>It's a different game. There are three character classes, all weapons do d6 damage, etc etc. </p><p></p><p>OD&D grew via its supplements, articles from The Dragon etc to become AD&D First Edition (1978-80). In the mean time a basic game, Holmes D&D (1977), was published to bridge new players towards the Advanced game. This basic game took a life of its own and became its own thing separate from OD&D and AD&D via a first revision in 1981 (Moldvay Cook or B/X D&D) which was revised again in 1983 and became Frank Mentzer's game (starting with the basic red box you see pictured above).</p><p></p><p>Paladins were introduced as a fighter variant in Supplement 1 Greyhawk (1975-6). You had to be Lawful of alignment from the commencement of play and have a 17 Charisma to be one. That's it (that assumes 3d6-in-order stat generation, though). Druids likewise, same supplement, though they were not a player character class at the time, but rather a Monster, an opponent one would encounter and possibly fight in the course of exploration and wilderness adventures.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Odhanan, post: 5834192, member: 12324"] You're making a mistake in thinking that Rules Cyclopedia = OD&D (1974). These are not the same games. Rules Cyclopedia was published in 1991, and is the compilation of the Basic, Expert, Companion and Master rules which started to get published by TSR in 1983. Rules Cyclopedia... [img]http://www.tsrinfo.net/archive/dd/dd-rc.jpg[/img] Comes from this... [img]http://doctorstrangeroll.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/dd-bbox.jpg[/img] Which is Mentzer, or BECMI D&D. OD&D (1974) is this: [img]http://www.theherofactory.com/OriginalDnD.jpg[/img] It's a different game. There are three character classes, all weapons do d6 damage, etc etc. OD&D grew via its supplements, articles from The Dragon etc to become AD&D First Edition (1978-80). In the mean time a basic game, Holmes D&D (1977), was published to bridge new players towards the Advanced game. This basic game took a life of its own and became its own thing separate from OD&D and AD&D via a first revision in 1981 (Moldvay Cook or B/X D&D) which was revised again in 1983 and became Frank Mentzer's game (starting with the basic red box you see pictured above). Paladins were introduced as a fighter variant in Supplement 1 Greyhawk (1975-6). You had to be Lawful of alignment from the commencement of play and have a 17 Charisma to be one. That's it (that assumes 3d6-in-order stat generation, though). Druids likewise, same supplement, though they were not a player character class at the time, but rather a Monster, an opponent one would encounter and possibly fight in the course of exploration and wilderness adventures. [/QUOTE]
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