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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5914695" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Hmmm. Interesting question.</p><p></p><p>I would think that properties of a weapon only work for attacks made through the item (regardless of whether the weapon is used as a weapon or as an implement) unless the property explicitly states otherwise. So if you used a different implement, you wouldn't get the +1 damage from the dagger.</p><p></p><p>As support for this, I looked at the PHB:</p><p></p><p>"Property: A holy avenger deals an extra 1d10 radiant damage when the power you use to make the attack has the radiant keyword."</p><p></p><p>"When you’re wielding a holy avenger, all your radiant powers deal extra damage when you use the weapon to deliver them."</p><p></p><p>The property does not state that the PC has to be wielding or attacking with the weapon, but the rules quote indicates that the weapon must be used regardless.</p><p></p><p></p><p>A slightly weaker rule from the errata tends to support this as well:</p><p></p><p>"When you use a magic version of the weapon as an implement, you can use the magic weapon’s enhancement bonus, critical hit effects, properties, and powers. However, some magic weapons have properties and powers that are worded in such a way that they work only with weapon attacks."</p><p></p><p>This seems to indicate that one can use these features, but implies that it is only if the weapon is being used as an implement. Which in turn would indicate that they could not be used if some other implement were used instead.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 5914695, member: 2011"] Hmmm. Interesting question. I would think that properties of a weapon only work for attacks made through the item (regardless of whether the weapon is used as a weapon or as an implement) unless the property explicitly states otherwise. So if you used a different implement, you wouldn't get the +1 damage from the dagger. As support for this, I looked at the PHB: "Property: A holy avenger deals an extra 1d10 radiant damage when the power you use to make the attack has the radiant keyword." "When you’re wielding a holy avenger, all your radiant powers deal extra damage when you use the weapon to deliver them." The property does not state that the PC has to be wielding or attacking with the weapon, but the rules quote indicates that the weapon must be used regardless. A slightly weaker rule from the errata tends to support this as well: "When you use a magic version of the weapon as an implement, you can use the magic weapon’s enhancement bonus, critical hit effects, properties, and powers. However, some magic weapons have properties and powers that are worded in such a way that they work only with weapon attacks." This seems to indicate that one can use these features, but implies that it is only if the weapon is being used as an implement. Which in turn would indicate that they could not be used if some other implement were used instead. [/QUOTE]
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