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<blockquote data-quote="Borlon" data-source="post: 2607678" data-attributes="member: 27589"><p>Natural armor (+5) is pretty substantial. A strength bonus of +12 is very substantial indeed. I don't think the telepathy is very significant, although it is an unusual take on goblinoids.</p><p></p><p>With 3 racial hit dice, and a +3 LA, it will be 4 points of BAB behind a human barbarian of the same ECL (usually meaning one less iterative attack), and have a -1 size penalty. But the bugbear will have a +6 attack bonus to strength and damage. Fewer hit dice, but each hit die is at +3 hit points due to high constitution. By the time they get 5 or 6 character levels they will have pulled even with a human barbarian.</p><p></p><p>Large size means the bugbear uses more space (can be attacked by more opponents) and has a -1 size penalty to AC. The natural armor bonus more than compensates.</p><p></p><p>To tell you the truth, the natural armor and ability bonuses suggest a +4 LA more than a +3.</p><p></p><p>What I would do, generally, is build a character with as many class levels as the LA and compare it with a human character of the same class, and the same ability scores (before racial modifiers). And then make a character with an ECL of 20, and compare it with a 20th level character. If they feel pretty much equal, then you got your LA down right.</p><p></p><p>So to test a +3 LA you'd make a bugbear barbarian 3, and compare it to a human barbarian 9. Then you'd make a bugbear barbarian 14 and compare it to a human barbarian 20.</p><p></p><p>A +4 LA would be a bugbear barbarian 4 vs a human barbarian 11, and a bugbear barbarian 13 vs the human barbarian 20. And so on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Borlon, post: 2607678, member: 27589"] Natural armor (+5) is pretty substantial. A strength bonus of +12 is very substantial indeed. I don't think the telepathy is very significant, although it is an unusual take on goblinoids. With 3 racial hit dice, and a +3 LA, it will be 4 points of BAB behind a human barbarian of the same ECL (usually meaning one less iterative attack), and have a -1 size penalty. But the bugbear will have a +6 attack bonus to strength and damage. Fewer hit dice, but each hit die is at +3 hit points due to high constitution. By the time they get 5 or 6 character levels they will have pulled even with a human barbarian. Large size means the bugbear uses more space (can be attacked by more opponents) and has a -1 size penalty to AC. The natural armor bonus more than compensates. To tell you the truth, the natural armor and ability bonuses suggest a +4 LA more than a +3. What I would do, generally, is build a character with as many class levels as the LA and compare it with a human character of the same class, and the same ability scores (before racial modifiers). And then make a character with an ECL of 20, and compare it with a 20th level character. If they feel pretty much equal, then you got your LA down right. So to test a +3 LA you'd make a bugbear barbarian 3, and compare it to a human barbarian 9. Then you'd make a bugbear barbarian 14 and compare it to a human barbarian 20. A +4 LA would be a bugbear barbarian 4 vs a human barbarian 11, and a bugbear barbarian 13 vs the human barbarian 20. And so on. [/QUOTE]
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