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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7700806" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>In 5e? hugely more. In the BM, specifically? maybe not so much. BM maneuvers necessarily tack onto a high-damage round of extra attacks. That limits the range of things they can do, since they can't trade-off that DPR for something else, and always have it to fall back on, even if they could use some rest-recharge mechanic instead of, rather than as well as, extra attack. It's not like Bo9S took the Fighter anywhere - it introduced new classes. One of them, the Warlblade, was not, AFAIK, supernatural. Could 5e do with some more classes, maybe one like the Warblade? Sure, it has a paucity of non- caster/magical options. Maybe not anything like a direct port of the Warblade, but something.</p><p></p><p>We already have the Paladin, Ranger, EK, War Cleric, Valor Bard, Bladelock, and even Bladesinger - not to mention the option of modular 3e-style multiclassing. We hardly need another supernatural melee class. I suppose you could wedge a Duskblade or Swordmage in sideways somewhere, but Gish is not exactly an under-served/un-explored concept in 5e.</p><p></p><p>There's not a lot of room for more maneuvers as they're currently structured. But, level-gating could at least create a second set (or, with some re-jiggering of BM features several sets) to choose from, so later maneuvers wouldn't be bottom-of-the barrel choices. Even that might require some errata of the BM sub-class. </p><p></p><p>Is that 'no thank you' in the sense it wouldn't be for you, or in the sense you begrudge anyone else the option of availing themselves of such a thing? I'm guessing the former, but I thought I'd ask...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7700806, member: 996"] In 5e? hugely more. In the BM, specifically? maybe not so much. BM maneuvers necessarily tack onto a high-damage round of extra attacks. That limits the range of things they can do, since they can't trade-off that DPR for something else, and always have it to fall back on, even if they could use some rest-recharge mechanic instead of, rather than as well as, extra attack. It's not like Bo9S took the Fighter anywhere - it introduced new classes. One of them, the Warlblade, was not, AFAIK, supernatural. Could 5e do with some more classes, maybe one like the Warblade? Sure, it has a paucity of non- caster/magical options. Maybe not anything like a direct port of the Warblade, but something. We already have the Paladin, Ranger, EK, War Cleric, Valor Bard, Bladelock, and even Bladesinger - not to mention the option of modular 3e-style multiclassing. We hardly need another supernatural melee class. I suppose you could wedge a Duskblade or Swordmage in sideways somewhere, but Gish is not exactly an under-served/un-explored concept in 5e. There's not a lot of room for more maneuvers as they're currently structured. But, level-gating could at least create a second set (or, with some re-jiggering of BM features several sets) to choose from, so later maneuvers wouldn't be bottom-of-the barrel choices. Even that might require some errata of the BM sub-class. Is that 'no thank you' in the sense it wouldn't be for you, or in the sense you begrudge anyone else the option of availing themselves of such a thing? I'm guessing the former, but I thought I'd ask... [/QUOTE]
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