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<blockquote data-quote="Walking Dad" data-source="post: 5347054" data-attributes="member: 59043"><p>I'm normally a reasonable player, but I don't get what you want to say. Living Eberron allows 3 very expertise like feats (Gnome Phantasmist, ...) to stack with the LEB 'our-mathfix, but we give it for free and don't call it expertise' bonus, what gives a kind of super bonus to , for example, gnome illusionist builds, who can stack the bonus from LEB, Phantasmist and Superior Implement (Crystal Orb) against the save that is regarded by most as best to target. This <u>IS the big LEB screwup</u> in my humble opinion. Even with the three feats only giving their bonus to damage, they are still strong.</p><p></p><p>Wizards screwed up the math first, but tried to fix it with expertise, and they realized in hindsight that some options were simply to strong. They changed their bandaid not to stack with the to-hit-bonus of the three above feats, because they did their math at last.</p><p></p><p>Why should this 3 feats are better than any else by stacking with something they weren't intended to?</p><p></p><p>My suggestion:</p><p></p><p>LEB bonus becomes a feat bonus and the 3 above feats become a fixed +1 bonus (untyped), like Hellfire Blood, the most similar core feat that stacks with the WotC bandaid.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Walking Dad, post: 5347054, member: 59043"] I'm normally a reasonable player, but I don't get what you want to say. Living Eberron allows 3 very expertise like feats (Gnome Phantasmist, ...) to stack with the LEB 'our-mathfix, but we give it for free and don't call it expertise' bonus, what gives a kind of super bonus to , for example, gnome illusionist builds, who can stack the bonus from LEB, Phantasmist and Superior Implement (Crystal Orb) against the save that is regarded by most as best to target. This [U]IS the big LEB screwup[/U] in my humble opinion. Even with the three feats only giving their bonus to damage, they are still strong. Wizards screwed up the math first, but tried to fix it with expertise, and they realized in hindsight that some options were simply to strong. They changed their bandaid not to stack with the to-hit-bonus of the three above feats, because they did their math at last. Why should this 3 feats are better than any else by stacking with something they weren't intended to? My suggestion: LEB bonus becomes a feat bonus and the 3 above feats become a fixed +1 bonus (untyped), like Hellfire Blood, the most similar core feat that stacks with the WotC bandaid. [/QUOTE]
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