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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7381115" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Oh, there not as good DPR (excepting the Warlock, as you say) as extra attack, but without that feature they still scale. No reason for mist warlord sub-classes to have extra attack so their weapon attacks aren't going to be scaling like that...</p><p></p><p> it doesn't have a lazylord yet. And, seriously, there's plenty of freedom to write up any such thing in a way that is w/in 5es loose tolerances.</p><p></p><p> ...I'm sorry to interrupt but there are some 'spirit guardians' calling you...</p><p></p><p></p><p> Its not that they don't care, it's that the standard isn't balancing optimized corner cases.</p><p>And that balance isn't the primary goal. Realizing concepts and evoking the classic game are higher priority. The Warlord should get by on the former, and balance of the numeric sort you're theorycrafting is antithetical to the latter.</p><p></p><p>Rather, when 5e gets around to considering balance, it's spotlight balance - and action grants put the recipient in the spotlight as much or more than the grantor.</p><p></p><p> No worries. You can have a homebrew feat to use implement keyword invokations while 4e wildshaped. </p><p>But you'll have to pay your own way to Santa Clara.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7381115, member: 996"] Oh, there not as good DPR (excepting the Warlock, as you say) as extra attack, but without that feature they still scale. No reason for mist warlord sub-classes to have extra attack so their weapon attacks aren't going to be scaling like that... it doesn't have a lazylord yet. And, seriously, there's plenty of freedom to write up any such thing in a way that is w/in 5es loose tolerances. ...I'm sorry to interrupt but there are some 'spirit guardians' calling you... Its not that they don't care, it's that the standard isn't balancing optimized corner cases. And that balance isn't the primary goal. Realizing concepts and evoking the classic game are higher priority. The Warlord should get by on the former, and balance of the numeric sort you're theorycrafting is antithetical to the latter. Rather, when 5e gets around to considering balance, it's spotlight balance - and action grants put the recipient in the spotlight as much or more than the grantor. No worries. You can have a homebrew feat to use implement keyword invokations while 4e wildshaped. But you'll have to pay your own way to Santa Clara. [/QUOTE]
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