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<blockquote data-quote="Iku Rex" data-source="post: 2483444" data-attributes="member: 752"><p>No, there is no need for "and". </p><p></p><p>Let's reword the rule in question (without changing the meaning) to fit a specific creature.</p><p></p><p>The original:</p><p> </p><p>Modified to a specific creature:</p><p> Do you agree that this is a reasonable "translation"? </p><p></p><p>So: In order for your interpretation to be in accordance with the rules, a tiefling (a creature with a Level Adjustment line included in its entry) must be suitable for use as a player character <em>or </em> as a cohort. </p><p></p><p>Agreed?</p><p></p><p><strong>Since my "possible" interpretation and your (?) "100%" interpretation treat tieflings the same* you can't object to my use of "or" with regards to tieflings.</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">*The DMG's description of cohorts makes it clear that a cohort doesn't have to have the (cohort) tag, so I'm treating that as an established fact.</span></p><p></p><p>Then we get to mephits, at which point the rule reads:</p><p> Is the rule true with my "possible" interpretation? Certainly.</p><p></p><p>I see the same rule saying the same thing about mephits and tieflings, and conclude that based on that rule mephits and tieflings are treated the same way. </p><p></p><p>Infiniti2000 (and you) insist that "or" must be read as "can be either" with regards to tieflings and "can't be either" with regards to mephits. </p><p></p><p>I don't see how you can call my interpretation unreasonable. </p><p>It does not follow. </p><p></p><p>I'll prove it by rewording it to refer to PCs: </p><p><em>Now when a creature has a LA: x , its pretty clear that the LA is applied to the creature when it is a player character. That means it doesn't have a LA when its a cohort, and thus can't be a cohort.</em></p><p></p><p>The premise is still true, the reasoning is the same, but the conclusion is false. That means that your logic is flawed. </p><p></p><p> True. (The rule in question remains logically True if mephits can't be PCs.) Which is why I keep insisting that "the RAW is unclear", rather than "I have the one correct answer". (Trust me - I'm not shy about the latter. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> )</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Iku Rex, post: 2483444, member: 752"] No, there is no need for "and". Let's reword the rule in question (without changing the meaning) to fit a specific creature. The original: Modified to a specific creature: Do you agree that this is a reasonable "translation"? So: In order for your interpretation to be in accordance with the rules, a tiefling (a creature with a Level Adjustment line included in its entry) must be suitable for use as a player character [I]or [/I] as a cohort. Agreed? [B]Since my "possible" interpretation and your (?) "100%" interpretation treat tieflings the same* you can't object to my use of "or" with regards to tieflings.[/B] [SIZE=1]*The DMG's description of cohorts makes it clear that a cohort doesn't have to have the (cohort) tag, so I'm treating that as an established fact.[/SIZE] Then we get to mephits, at which point the rule reads: Is the rule true with my "possible" interpretation? Certainly. I see the same rule saying the same thing about mephits and tieflings, and conclude that based on that rule mephits and tieflings are treated the same way. Infiniti2000 (and you) insist that "or" must be read as "can be either" with regards to tieflings and "can't be either" with regards to mephits. I don't see how you can call my interpretation unreasonable. It does not follow. I'll prove it by rewording it to refer to PCs: [I]Now when a creature has a LA: x , its pretty clear that the LA is applied to the creature when it is a player character. That means it doesn't have a LA when its a cohort, and thus can't be a cohort.[/I] The premise is still true, the reasoning is the same, but the conclusion is false. That means that your logic is flawed. True. (The rule in question remains logically True if mephits can't be PCs.) Which is why I keep insisting that "the RAW is unclear", rather than "I have the one correct answer". (Trust me - I'm not shy about the latter. ;) ) [/QUOTE]
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