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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 7326034" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Right, I'm just saying that they MAY have created it as a class feature thinking that invoking the ritual rules might deter people from playing the class who only have the RC, which you may remember DOES NOT HAVE any ritual rules in it! In fact it has some fairly obscure rules from other parts of the system, but rituals and practices are pretty close to the only thing that is left out in a purely mechanical sense. Yes, other parts of HotFW DO invoke the ritual rules, and there are things like themes (character elements in general) where RC is just silent that do appear in post-E books. These books are WEIRD, they don't entirely work for anyone that doesn't use both HotF(L/K) AND PHB1/DMG1, but I think there are parts where they just said "why add this element that only works for one rules set when we can make it work with both?" Other things they seem to have decided would cater to one or the other necessarily (IE you can't really make options for an E-class build that works for PHB1 players). </p><p></p><p>I mean, rituals aren't literally non-existent in Essentials, they are simply left out, just like the RC basically leaves out all specific options for PCs, there are no EDs or PPs or even really any mention of them except one sentence on p86, but they do EXIST in Essentials. Presumably rituals EXIST as well, in that they could hypothetically be part of the game if you have a source of rules for them, like PHB1. It is just interesting that they are missing from the Skald, which by that omission falls within the parameters of what Essentials explicitly includes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 7326034, member: 82106"] Right, I'm just saying that they MAY have created it as a class feature thinking that invoking the ritual rules might deter people from playing the class who only have the RC, which you may remember DOES NOT HAVE any ritual rules in it! In fact it has some fairly obscure rules from other parts of the system, but rituals and practices are pretty close to the only thing that is left out in a purely mechanical sense. Yes, other parts of HotFW DO invoke the ritual rules, and there are things like themes (character elements in general) where RC is just silent that do appear in post-E books. These books are WEIRD, they don't entirely work for anyone that doesn't use both HotF(L/K) AND PHB1/DMG1, but I think there are parts where they just said "why add this element that only works for one rules set when we can make it work with both?" Other things they seem to have decided would cater to one or the other necessarily (IE you can't really make options for an E-class build that works for PHB1 players). I mean, rituals aren't literally non-existent in Essentials, they are simply left out, just like the RC basically leaves out all specific options for PCs, there are no EDs or PPs or even really any mention of them except one sentence on p86, but they do EXIST in Essentials. Presumably rituals EXIST as well, in that they could hypothetically be part of the game if you have a source of rules for them, like PHB1. It is just interesting that they are missing from the Skald, which by that omission falls within the parameters of what Essentials explicitly includes. [/QUOTE]
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