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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 7975648" data-attributes="member: 82504"><p><strong><span style="font-size: 22px">Long Distance Runner</span></strong></p><p>elaborated and why it needs to be more awesome. This is classic flavor evocative of Gilgamesh/Beowulf and the LOTR boys (so I want it to be of real value)</p><p></p><p>This level 6 martial practice allows one to potentially <strong>run</strong> for up to a full day (lots of skill required to get there). Now running? what does that mean? are they really talking about +2 squares? (running in really life is more than walking x 1.333 ) And what is the impact In terms of changes like overland movement speed? which is where you would really think the effect would be noted and valuable information but was not mentioned at all???</p><p></p><p>Well I will chock that up to Martial Practices being a bit under done/developed ... starting with combat movement seems a bad idea. So let's go with something irrelevant to fantasy... ie walking in real life is decent to say on the order of 2.5 to 3.5 miles per hour ie 30 miles in 10 hours I think going off of this and buffing by a real world definition of long distance running. Marathon speed is 5 to 6 miles per hour</p><p></p><p>Basically the above gives us running is a factor of 2x walking. In context and applied long distance this can allow a speed 5 character to match a horse (see Glimli). Or a human to exceed that. Now assuming one using the practice runs continuously when one reaches a full day of running that is more on the order of 2.5 times that but let's actually allow sleep an go with 4 times the normal travel distance in a day when the skill has scaled you to near peak performance. </p><p></p><p>The good thing and strangely realistic is boiled you get athletic humans rather realistically able to match a horse for long distance travel and actually exceed and run it down ( if you had rules for it or a DM that made killing one's mounts a potential repercussion of pushing them for longer than and a way of paying for successes in a Skill Challenge.)</p><p></p><p>Speaking of Skill Challenges this is the arena that Practices and Rituals both need considered in terms of ie not just in terms of raw effects.</p><p></p><p>In game terms as an ability like all trances (which I am going to make this one of) it only affects you so you pretty much need some clever use running ahead in a long term skill challenge to aid the purpose and you need to lack a mount... so its pretty situational in the first place. If you can work your allies into the mind set/trance state like a Warlord using a wolf pack mentality practice of some sort (hypnosis granting this practice)</p><p></p><p>Basically At level 6 you are in mid heroic tier and having the ability be still fairly real world isnt too bad but what about paragon and epic.</p><p></p><p>In terms of mythical one would expect at epic this is significantly worse than the archetypal a Gilgamesh whos ascribed long distance movement speed I calculated once amounted to full clip world class sprinting for multiple days but this is our starting point). We DO want to go beyond that because this is fantasy and gilgamesh went days at a pace that would be sprinting and maybe at the Usain class.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 7975648, member: 82504"] [B][SIZE=6]Long Distance Runner[/SIZE][/B] elaborated and why it needs to be more awesome. This is classic flavor evocative of Gilgamesh/Beowulf and the LOTR boys (so I want it to be of real value) This level 6 martial practice allows one to potentially [B]run[/B] for up to a full day (lots of skill required to get there). Now running? what does that mean? are they really talking about +2 squares? (running in really life is more than walking x 1.333 ) And what is the impact In terms of changes like overland movement speed? which is where you would really think the effect would be noted and valuable information but was not mentioned at all??? Well I will chock that up to Martial Practices being a bit under done/developed ... starting with combat movement seems a bad idea. So let's go with something irrelevant to fantasy... ie walking in real life is decent to say on the order of 2.5 to 3.5 miles per hour ie 30 miles in 10 hours I think going off of this and buffing by a real world definition of long distance running. Marathon speed is 5 to 6 miles per hour Basically the above gives us running is a factor of 2x walking. In context and applied long distance this can allow a speed 5 character to match a horse (see Glimli). Or a human to exceed that. Now assuming one using the practice runs continuously when one reaches a full day of running that is more on the order of 2.5 times that but let's actually allow sleep an go with 4 times the normal travel distance in a day when the skill has scaled you to near peak performance. The good thing and strangely realistic is boiled you get athletic humans rather realistically able to match a horse for long distance travel and actually exceed and run it down ( if you had rules for it or a DM that made killing one's mounts a potential repercussion of pushing them for longer than and a way of paying for successes in a Skill Challenge.) Speaking of Skill Challenges this is the arena that Practices and Rituals both need considered in terms of ie not just in terms of raw effects. In game terms as an ability like all trances (which I am going to make this one of) it only affects you so you pretty much need some clever use running ahead in a long term skill challenge to aid the purpose and you need to lack a mount... so its pretty situational in the first place. If you can work your allies into the mind set/trance state like a Warlord using a wolf pack mentality practice of some sort (hypnosis granting this practice) Basically At level 6 you are in mid heroic tier and having the ability be still fairly real world isnt too bad but what about paragon and epic. In terms of mythical one would expect at epic this is significantly worse than the archetypal a Gilgamesh whos ascribed long distance movement speed I calculated once amounted to full clip world class sprinting for multiple days but this is our starting point). We DO want to go beyond that because this is fantasy and gilgamesh went days at a pace that would be sprinting and maybe at the Usain class. [/QUOTE]
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