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<blockquote data-quote="Velderan" data-source="post: 9016315" data-attributes="member: 7038056"><p>Others have mentioned the elf women were clerics, but that's not entirely accurate from what I remember. They were traveling from Silvanesti to Istar to become clerics when they were attacked by ogres and rescued by Soth's group. Whatever messages the gods may have sent to their clerics would not have included Isolde or her elven companions since they were not actually clerics yet. Why did they try to turn Soth against Isolde? I think they just wanted to get her back so they could continue their journey to Istar and they saw redeeming her from Soth's influence as their first major test by Paladine which is probably the angle I'd go with if the PCs have a chance to ask. They wouldn't have known about the Cataclysm IMO.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As noted above, she never actually became a cleric. She likely stayed with him because she was young and likely naive, so she probably overlooked a lot of obvious red flags (pretty much like actual people tend to do when they stay in relationships they probably shouldn't). The 2e Tales of the Lance boxed set does hint that Soth's corrupt steward Caradoc may have been behind Soth and Isolde's affair so the way I've always looked at it was Soth was an extremely proud man who quickly rose through the ranks to become a Knight of the Rose and when he was unable to have a child to pass on his name and lands to, he grew bitter and probably wasn't pleasant to be around for his closest servants. It's reasonable that Caradoc just saw finding a way to get rid of his wife so Soth could marry another woman that may be able to give him a child as part of his steward duties. Important men in history have gone to great lengths to secure the lineage of their family; look at Henry the 8th.</p><p></p><p></p><p>There's definitely a certain level of "so the story can happen" to Soth's timeline. That being said, I don't know if I've ever read how far into the journey he was before encountering the elven women but it's likely they didn't stray far from Dargaard if they were hoping to get Isolde out of there somehow. The timing of the Cataclysm and the significance of Soth's failure could certainly be looked at as the final strike that caused the Cataclysm to occur, especially if you consider the curse Isolde placed on him as for him to live a lifetime for every life his failure caused to be lost during the Cataclysm.</p><p></p><p></p><p><s>Soth's motivation in SotDQ is to be a marketable face that longtime DL fans can remember and tempt them into buying the book.</s></p><p></p><p>Soth's motivation was boredom, basically. He sat in his castle and listened to the banshees tell him about his downfall every night. In the novels he initially saw Kitiara's offer of Laurana as a way to get revenge, but that is harder to make work in a game without a prominent female PC, so you could go 1 of 2 ways with this depending on your group's plan. Either existing DL canon sticks and Kitiara lured him out. This works if you're planning to continue the story after SotDQ, since Kitiara could be a key player in continuing the campaign's story. Otherwise if you're only going to run SotDQ and then move on to a new setting, have Kansaldi replace Kitiara as being the one who spent the night in Dargaard and became his new obsession. They didn't really do much of anything in the book to establish Kansaldi IMO, so you could use that to help build her into more of a threat.</p><p></p><p>Others have said this in other DL threads so it's worth repeating; ignore what's in the novels and stick with what's presented in the gaming material. The gaming material typically provides enough to give a DM an idea of what the character was about without going into so much detail that you can't easily make the material fit in your own campaign since you're playing a game and not reading a novel to the group. The faster you break the "Dragonlance is what's in the novels" shackles, the more you'll enjoy a campaign ran in the setting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Velderan, post: 9016315, member: 7038056"] Others have mentioned the elf women were clerics, but that's not entirely accurate from what I remember. They were traveling from Silvanesti to Istar to become clerics when they were attacked by ogres and rescued by Soth's group. Whatever messages the gods may have sent to their clerics would not have included Isolde or her elven companions since they were not actually clerics yet. Why did they try to turn Soth against Isolde? I think they just wanted to get her back so they could continue their journey to Istar and they saw redeeming her from Soth's influence as their first major test by Paladine which is probably the angle I'd go with if the PCs have a chance to ask. They wouldn't have known about the Cataclysm IMO. As noted above, she never actually became a cleric. She likely stayed with him because she was young and likely naive, so she probably overlooked a lot of obvious red flags (pretty much like actual people tend to do when they stay in relationships they probably shouldn't). The 2e Tales of the Lance boxed set does hint that Soth's corrupt steward Caradoc may have been behind Soth and Isolde's affair so the way I've always looked at it was Soth was an extremely proud man who quickly rose through the ranks to become a Knight of the Rose and when he was unable to have a child to pass on his name and lands to, he grew bitter and probably wasn't pleasant to be around for his closest servants. It's reasonable that Caradoc just saw finding a way to get rid of his wife so Soth could marry another woman that may be able to give him a child as part of his steward duties. Important men in history have gone to great lengths to secure the lineage of their family; look at Henry the 8th. There's definitely a certain level of "so the story can happen" to Soth's timeline. That being said, I don't know if I've ever read how far into the journey he was before encountering the elven women but it's likely they didn't stray far from Dargaard if they were hoping to get Isolde out of there somehow. The timing of the Cataclysm and the significance of Soth's failure could certainly be looked at as the final strike that caused the Cataclysm to occur, especially if you consider the curse Isolde placed on him as for him to live a lifetime for every life his failure caused to be lost during the Cataclysm. [S]Soth's motivation in SotDQ is to be a marketable face that longtime DL fans can remember and tempt them into buying the book.[/S] Soth's motivation was boredom, basically. He sat in his castle and listened to the banshees tell him about his downfall every night. In the novels he initially saw Kitiara's offer of Laurana as a way to get revenge, but that is harder to make work in a game without a prominent female PC, so you could go 1 of 2 ways with this depending on your group's plan. Either existing DL canon sticks and Kitiara lured him out. This works if you're planning to continue the story after SotDQ, since Kitiara could be a key player in continuing the campaign's story. Otherwise if you're only going to run SotDQ and then move on to a new setting, have Kansaldi replace Kitiara as being the one who spent the night in Dargaard and became his new obsession. They didn't really do much of anything in the book to establish Kansaldi IMO, so you could use that to help build her into more of a threat. Others have said this in other DL threads so it's worth repeating; ignore what's in the novels and stick with what's presented in the gaming material. The gaming material typically provides enough to give a DM an idea of what the character was about without going into so much detail that you can't easily make the material fit in your own campaign since you're playing a game and not reading a novel to the group. The faster you break the "Dragonlance is what's in the novels" shackles, the more you'll enjoy a campaign ran in the setting. [/QUOTE]
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