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<blockquote data-quote="Gadget" data-source="post: 9016496" data-attributes="member: 23716"><p>I think it is important to note a few things about the story:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Yes, the 13 elven women with her at the time were clerics (or studying to become such), even daughters of Paladine. However, given the state of the Ishtar and the Clerical organization as a whole, that does not mean much. The church of Paladine (and most of the other Gods) had become grossly corrupt, hide-bound, and blind by this time. Most "clerics" did not have clerical powers and were more like government functionaries with an extra helping of superiority. This is one of the things leading to the Cataclysm and is very similar to popular views of the historical medieval Christian Church. As such, the character of such women is hardly recommended by their status within the clerical hierarchy. Likely they were just vain and vindictive women who liked to put others down and relished the misery of others, part Real Housewives and part Mean Girls. The fact that they were made Banshees during the Cataclysm and cursed with forever repeating to Soth his tragic tale is a telling mark about who and what kind of people they were.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">It is possible for good people to make mistakes in a moment of passion and attraction. Adultery and infidelity are common enough today, though this does not excuse the pair. By all accounts, Soth was one of the greatest and most respected of the Order. But the fact that Soth could not own up to the affair and doubled down by trying to keep things secret and having his wife killed is where things really go off the rails. IIRC, Soth was tried and convicted by the Knights after it came to light that he had not only had an affair, but arranged for his wife's death to clear the way for his new love. It would require quite a change and redemption to recover from that, but that is exactly what he received when given the opportunity to stop the Cataclysm. Unfortunately, with the chance at redemption he was also granted enough rope to hang himself, so to speak. And that is exactly what he did. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">I don't know about the timing being convenient, just poetic. He was given a chance, and failed that chance and suffered the consequences. Such things tend to be so in epic stories and divine timing. I don't know that the gods place "all their hope" in Soth, they merely gave him an opportunity; they also sent signs and wonders all over the continent. </li> </ol></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gadget, post: 9016496, member: 23716"] I think it is important to note a few things about the story: [LIST=1] [*]Yes, the 13 elven women with her at the time were clerics (or studying to become such), even daughters of Paladine. However, given the state of the Ishtar and the Clerical organization as a whole, that does not mean much. The church of Paladine (and most of the other Gods) had become grossly corrupt, hide-bound, and blind by this time. Most "clerics" did not have clerical powers and were more like government functionaries with an extra helping of superiority. This is one of the things leading to the Cataclysm and is very similar to popular views of the historical medieval Christian Church. As such, the character of such women is hardly recommended by their status within the clerical hierarchy. Likely they were just vain and vindictive women who liked to put others down and relished the misery of others, part Real Housewives and part Mean Girls. The fact that they were made Banshees during the Cataclysm and cursed with forever repeating to Soth his tragic tale is a telling mark about who and what kind of people they were. [*]It is possible for good people to make mistakes in a moment of passion and attraction. Adultery and infidelity are common enough today, though this does not excuse the pair. By all accounts, Soth was one of the greatest and most respected of the Order. But the fact that Soth could not own up to the affair and doubled down by trying to keep things secret and having his wife killed is where things really go off the rails. IIRC, Soth was tried and convicted by the Knights after it came to light that he had not only had an affair, but arranged for his wife's death to clear the way for his new love. It would require quite a change and redemption to recover from that, but that is exactly what he received when given the opportunity to stop the Cataclysm. Unfortunately, with the chance at redemption he was also granted enough rope to hang himself, so to speak. And that is exactly what he did. [*]I don't know about the timing being convenient, just poetic. He was given a chance, and failed that chance and suffered the consequences. Such things tend to be so in epic stories and divine timing. I don't know that the gods place "all their hope" in Soth, they merely gave him an opportunity; they also sent signs and wonders all over the continent. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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