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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 8038199" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>I agree. These same people won't re-purchase the same material again next month when the next month's bills are due.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Indeed. We've seen this battle before, and it won't end well for them or the sustained success LotFM held previously.</p><p></p><p>I want to clarify. Being a fan of the OSR, and even being a fan of gritty OSR products (like LotFP) does not mean you're an old white dinosaur who is sexist, bigot, conservative, or whatever. I think that gets implied some times, especially when things like this are happening and the most vocal people rallying behind LotFP seem to be making bigoted/sexist comments as their excuse as to why LotFP is now failing as a product. </p><p></p><p>The OSR is simply a a mechanical preference, not a political one. As someone who started playing in 1981 and my favorite edition is 1e, I am also in full support of "woke" culture. Heck, I give corporate presentations on diversity and privilege lol. A person can prefer a streamlined basic system, much of the art from the old days, and like sword and sorcery while also omitting the sexist/racist stereotypes that appeared back then. I can like my 10' poles, rot grubs, race as class, Trampier art, and gritty dungeons and also be supportive of LGBTQ characters in the game world and use proper gender identity pronouns and ignore gender stat limits or modifiers. Believe it or not, it's possible <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>It's unfortunate that the OSR also has a subset of gamers who cling to the old sexist stereotypes and now are blaming the shift to a more diverse and aware gaming culture as the reason they are now no longer being tolerated, rather than own up to their own toxic behavior. A lot of the arguments I'm seeing in defense of Raggi and his game are the same arguments people used to defend FATAL. To be honest, if you like FATAL, I'm perfectly fine with people making assumptions about you and it's not their fault or "woke culture" doing it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 8038199, member: 15700"] I agree. These same people won't re-purchase the same material again next month when the next month's bills are due. Indeed. We've seen this battle before, and it won't end well for them or the sustained success LotFM held previously. I want to clarify. Being a fan of the OSR, and even being a fan of gritty OSR products (like LotFP) does not mean you're an old white dinosaur who is sexist, bigot, conservative, or whatever. I think that gets implied some times, especially when things like this are happening and the most vocal people rallying behind LotFP seem to be making bigoted/sexist comments as their excuse as to why LotFP is now failing as a product. The OSR is simply a a mechanical preference, not a political one. As someone who started playing in 1981 and my favorite edition is 1e, I am also in full support of "woke" culture. Heck, I give corporate presentations on diversity and privilege lol. A person can prefer a streamlined basic system, much of the art from the old days, and like sword and sorcery while also omitting the sexist/racist stereotypes that appeared back then. I can like my 10' poles, rot grubs, race as class, Trampier art, and gritty dungeons and also be supportive of LGBTQ characters in the game world and use proper gender identity pronouns and ignore gender stat limits or modifiers. Believe it or not, it's possible ;) It's unfortunate that the OSR also has a subset of gamers who cling to the old sexist stereotypes and now are blaming the shift to a more diverse and aware gaming culture as the reason they are now no longer being tolerated, rather than own up to their own toxic behavior. A lot of the arguments I'm seeing in defense of Raggi and his game are the same arguments people used to defend FATAL. To be honest, if you like FATAL, I'm perfectly fine with people making assumptions about you and it's not their fault or "woke culture" doing it. [/QUOTE]
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