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<blockquote data-quote="arkwright" data-source="post: 8694238" data-attributes="member: 6925177"><p>Let's see what the books say.</p><p></p><p>Book 1:</p><p>An ambitious tiefling in her late 20s.</p><p></p><p>For the past three years she has worked with King Aodhan to keep the peace between their two nations, and as they began making plans for a formal alliance, she accepted the king’s offer of marriage as a symbolic union</p><p></p><p>Though she gets involved with Risur out of a desire to gain great political power, she does so with no malice. After she is promoted within the Obscurati, she sees a chance for a more meaningful and lasting peace, but to reach that goal she must tell ever more elaborate lies.</p><p></p><p>Book 5:</p><p>Intelligent and open-minded, Lya has her doubts about the conspiracy’s plans. She insists on maintaining high moral standards for herself and her followers, to balance out the distasteful but—as she sees them—necessary deceptions and murders they commit.</p><p></p><p>Book 9: </p><p>“I won’t try to persuade you with compassion. Nicodemus cares about saving the world from suffering. He and I both have seen wars, and bloodshed. We agree it must stop. But for different reasons. “It wasn’t the atrocities I saw, or the horrible wounds my friends suffered that bothered me most.” (Try to time this with her cutting off someone’s limb.) “It was that there was no place for reason. When I’m honest with myself, a stranger’s suffering—it doesn’t bother me. But a mind left fallow, poisoned by desperation? That is cruel. You’re loyal and decent. I respect that. But a new age of reason is upon us. Your time is past.”</p><p></p><p>Her book 9 speech <em>does</em> seem rather at odds with her previous personality entries. You could try and come up with a justification for the two, but I would personally prefer to say that her Book 9 speech is wholly influenced by Nic/drop the Book 9 speech entirely.</p><p></p><p>I'd run it that Lya is a Danoran patriot. She wants what's best for Danor- which, to her, involves a successful alliance and peace with Risur. The Ob plan appeals as it will enhance Danor/might reset the antimagic/will enable better and happier societies. While she maintains a strong sense of right and wrong, she is willing to do some immoral things (assassination, sabotage, deceit) to achieve the Ob goals and the peace with Risur.</p><p></p><p>If the PCs can challenge her idea that the ends justify the means, or prove that the Ob's goals are bad, or make it impossible for her to continue as an Ob member, she could devote herself solely to peace with Risur, marrying the King and supporting the peace.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="arkwright, post: 8694238, member: 6925177"] Let's see what the books say. Book 1: An ambitious tiefling in her late 20s. For the past three years she has worked with King Aodhan to keep the peace between their two nations, and as they began making plans for a formal alliance, she accepted the king’s offer of marriage as a symbolic union Though she gets involved with Risur out of a desire to gain great political power, she does so with no malice. After she is promoted within the Obscurati, she sees a chance for a more meaningful and lasting peace, but to reach that goal she must tell ever more elaborate lies. Book 5: Intelligent and open-minded, Lya has her doubts about the conspiracy’s plans. She insists on maintaining high moral standards for herself and her followers, to balance out the distasteful but—as she sees them—necessary deceptions and murders they commit. Book 9: “I won’t try to persuade you with compassion. Nicodemus cares about saving the world from suffering. He and I both have seen wars, and bloodshed. We agree it must stop. But for different reasons. “It wasn’t the atrocities I saw, or the horrible wounds my friends suffered that bothered me most.” (Try to time this with her cutting off someone’s limb.) “It was that there was no place for reason. When I’m honest with myself, a stranger’s suffering—it doesn’t bother me. But a mind left fallow, poisoned by desperation? That is cruel. You’re loyal and decent. I respect that. But a new age of reason is upon us. Your time is past.” Her book 9 speech [I]does[/I] seem rather at odds with her previous personality entries. You could try and come up with a justification for the two, but I would personally prefer to say that her Book 9 speech is wholly influenced by Nic/drop the Book 9 speech entirely. I'd run it that Lya is a Danoran patriot. She wants what's best for Danor- which, to her, involves a successful alliance and peace with Risur. The Ob plan appeals as it will enhance Danor/might reset the antimagic/will enable better and happier societies. While she maintains a strong sense of right and wrong, she is willing to do some immoral things (assassination, sabotage, deceit) to achieve the Ob goals and the peace with Risur. If the PCs can challenge her idea that the ends justify the means, or prove that the Ob's goals are bad, or make it impossible for her to continue as an Ob member, she could devote herself solely to peace with Risur, marrying the King and supporting the peace. [/QUOTE]
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