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<blockquote data-quote="RangerWickett" data-source="post: 8694746" data-attributes="member: 63"><p>The way I'd describe Lya's motivation by adventure 9 is that she knows they're on opposite sides, and whatever cordiality they may have had before, now she's angry at them for standing in the way of the peaceful world the Ob is so close to achieving.</p><p></p><p>The point of her speech is that she knows Nicodemus's (stated) motivation is to spare people from suffering, but her motivation is not the same as his. And she knows that Nicodemus has tried to persuade them and failed, so she's trying a different argument.</p><p></p><p>Sure, she likes to spare people from suffering. She clearly takes no joy in people suffering. But the reason she wants a peaceful world is not simply to stop suffering for its own sake. She wouldn't be okay with some sort of Garden of Eden world of blissful ignorance. She values minds and reason and knowledge and innovation, and her view is that a peaceful world is one where minds can best thrive. She <em>is</em> bothered by hurting people, and she'll make a conscious effort to reduce harm if she can, but if she is confident that harming someone - or messing with the emotions of millions of people against their will - will bring her closer to a world that will foster intellect, she's okay with that.</p><p></p><p>Really the only thing that would get Lya to turn against the Ob is a convincing argument that the Ob's plan will fail to produce the desired outcome, with some information she hasn't been privy to. If somehow the PCs were able to do a test run and discover the hivemind effect that crops up in adventure 10, that would give her pause, but even then she'd probably just want to delay the process to get it right, not stop what the Ob is doing. Also, like, if she were alive she wouldn't go along with the Watchmaker plan that Nic eventually tries for in adventure 13.</p><p></p><p>Hm, I wonder if anyone has ever considered resurrecting Lya during Act Three of the campaign.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RangerWickett, post: 8694746, member: 63"] The way I'd describe Lya's motivation by adventure 9 is that she knows they're on opposite sides, and whatever cordiality they may have had before, now she's angry at them for standing in the way of the peaceful world the Ob is so close to achieving. The point of her speech is that she knows Nicodemus's (stated) motivation is to spare people from suffering, but her motivation is not the same as his. And she knows that Nicodemus has tried to persuade them and failed, so she's trying a different argument. Sure, she likes to spare people from suffering. She clearly takes no joy in people suffering. But the reason she wants a peaceful world is not simply to stop suffering for its own sake. She wouldn't be okay with some sort of Garden of Eden world of blissful ignorance. She values minds and reason and knowledge and innovation, and her view is that a peaceful world is one where minds can best thrive. She [I]is[/I] bothered by hurting people, and she'll make a conscious effort to reduce harm if she can, but if she is confident that harming someone - or messing with the emotions of millions of people against their will - will bring her closer to a world that will foster intellect, she's okay with that. Really the only thing that would get Lya to turn against the Ob is a convincing argument that the Ob's plan will fail to produce the desired outcome, with some information she hasn't been privy to. If somehow the PCs were able to do a test run and discover the hivemind effect that crops up in adventure 10, that would give her pause, but even then she'd probably just want to delay the process to get it right, not stop what the Ob is doing. Also, like, if she were alive she wouldn't go along with the Watchmaker plan that Nic eventually tries for in adventure 13. Hm, I wonder if anyone has ever considered resurrecting Lya during Act Three of the campaign. [/QUOTE]
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