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<blockquote data-quote="King of Old School" data-source="post: 2074196" data-attributes="member: 8789"><p>No.</p><p></p><p>1) The Technocracy aren't the "foundations" of science. They're mages who adopted science as their paradigm, and have succeeded in spreading it as the dominant paradigm in modern society. But they didn't create it, any more than the Celestial Chorus created monotheism in general or Christianity (the dominant paradigm in Europe until rational secularism took hold) in particular.</p><p></p><p>2) The Technocracy <em>is</em> the enemy, since one of their avowed goals is to eliminate any paradigm of magic beyond their own and to bring all mages directly under their authority. It has little to nothing to do with science. Without the Technocracy and the very real threat it presents, there wouldn't even be a Council.</p><p></p><p>3) Not every tradition holds the broad Awakening of the masses as a goal -- I can't see the Order of Hermes viewing such an occurence with anything short of dread and disdain, frex. The one thing the Trads could agree they want is a world safe for magic, rather than a magical world. There's a huge difference.</p><p></p><p>4) Not every element of reality is subject to the localized, immediate beliefs of the people in the vicinity. There was reality before there was human belief, and a lot of the big stuff (gravity, air, light) is more or less "fixed" by forces beyond mere human belief. The threat to reality posed by the ascension of a magical worldview is vastly overstated -- otherwise, the world before the rise of the Order of Reason would have been utterly chaotic. It wasn't.</p><p></p><p>For emphasis: the point of the Technocracy isn't science, it's fascism. Authority, conformity, dehumanization.</p><p></p><p>KoOS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="King of Old School, post: 2074196, member: 8789"] No. 1) The Technocracy aren't the "foundations" of science. They're mages who adopted science as their paradigm, and have succeeded in spreading it as the dominant paradigm in modern society. But they didn't create it, any more than the Celestial Chorus created monotheism in general or Christianity (the dominant paradigm in Europe until rational secularism took hold) in particular. 2) The Technocracy [i]is[/i] the enemy, since one of their avowed goals is to eliminate any paradigm of magic beyond their own and to bring all mages directly under their authority. It has little to nothing to do with science. Without the Technocracy and the very real threat it presents, there wouldn't even be a Council. 3) Not every tradition holds the broad Awakening of the masses as a goal -- I can't see the Order of Hermes viewing such an occurence with anything short of dread and disdain, frex. The one thing the Trads could agree they want is a world safe for magic, rather than a magical world. There's a huge difference. 4) Not every element of reality is subject to the localized, immediate beliefs of the people in the vicinity. There was reality before there was human belief, and a lot of the big stuff (gravity, air, light) is more or less "fixed" by forces beyond mere human belief. The threat to reality posed by the ascension of a magical worldview is vastly overstated -- otherwise, the world before the rise of the Order of Reason would have been utterly chaotic. It wasn't. For emphasis: the point of the Technocracy isn't science, it's fascism. Authority, conformity, dehumanization. KoOS [/QUOTE]
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