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Magic Initiate feat spell + Warlock spell slot?
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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6481319" data-attributes="member: 92511"><p>I would be inclined to say no, citing the "the specific trumps the general" guideline.</p><p></p><p>The feat, Magic Initiate, is the specific. The Warlock class abilities are the [more] general. </p><p></p><p>The specific says you can cast it once between long rests. It's not vague about that. This is something the feat lets you do separate/outside your normal class abilities [the general].</p><p></p><p>The Magic Initiate choice, presumably, is not a spell of your own class but some different one you wouldn't normally have access to. So why/how would your Warlock casting know-how apply to this special "other" magic which your patron did not grant you. Of course, it could be fluffed that you did get it from your patron....but that doesn't change what the Feat actually says.</p><p></p><p>The other thing is what the specific actually does say. Namely, you learn it and can cast it once between long rests...<em>at its lowest level</em>. So any ole spell slot can't be used. You have to cast it at/as a 1st level spell. If you have a spare 2nd or 3rd level Warlock spell slot, that doesn't help you [or so I would say].</p><p></p><p>I see the wiggle room/room for interpretation and could understand why one would say, "yes it's fine."...and it may be/probably is. But I'd think it is clearly not intended to be a yes. Its intended to be something <em>extra/special/unusual</em> you can do...<em>once</em> and <em>at it's lowest level</em> per long rest. The feat, the specific, is quite clear.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 6481319, member: 92511"] I would be inclined to say no, citing the "the specific trumps the general" guideline. The feat, Magic Initiate, is the specific. The Warlock class abilities are the [more] general. The specific says you can cast it once between long rests. It's not vague about that. This is something the feat lets you do separate/outside your normal class abilities [the general]. The Magic Initiate choice, presumably, is not a spell of your own class but some different one you wouldn't normally have access to. So why/how would your Warlock casting know-how apply to this special "other" magic which your patron did not grant you. Of course, it could be fluffed that you did get it from your patron....but that doesn't change what the Feat actually says. The other thing is what the specific actually does say. Namely, you learn it and can cast it once between long rests...[I]at its lowest level[/I]. So any ole spell slot can't be used. You have to cast it at/as a 1st level spell. If you have a spare 2nd or 3rd level Warlock spell slot, that doesn't help you [or so I would say]. I see the wiggle room/room for interpretation and could understand why one would say, "yes it's fine."...and it may be/probably is. But I'd think it is clearly not intended to be a yes. Its intended to be something [I]extra/special/unusual[/I] you can do...[I]once[/I] and [I]at it's lowest level[/I] per long rest. The feat, the specific, is quite clear. [/QUOTE]
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