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<blockquote data-quote="Cognomen's Cassowary" data-source="post: 7104120" data-attributes="member: 6801445"><p>All right.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Eldritch blast does force damage. Eldritch blast requires attack rolls. Disintegrate does force damage. Disintegrate can be evaded. You have made a capricious and arbitrary rationalization.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yet it is mechanically different from eldritch blast and disintegrate, and you offer no explanation as to why. You have made a capricious and arbitrary rationalization.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Its situational awareness and self-direction extend this far <em>but no further</em>. You have made a capricious and arbitrary rationalization.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And <em>never misses</em>, necessitating the in-fiction explanation that the caster is much better with this one attack than with every single other one. You have made a capricious and arbitrary rationalization.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Re-read those two sentences as you placed them in juxtaposition. Can you honestly not see the problem in saying that the spell avoids all cover, discerns its target, and never misses <em>without</em> having some kind of homing capability?</p><p></p><p>So.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. This is you rationalizing the spell as it is written playing the way you think it should play.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You mean the <em>image</em> of the target you selected. Tell me, how do you play magic missile against a target who has blur up?</p><p></p><p>I am also curious about your allowing the images to be destroyed by save-based spells, and not just because that is expressly counter to mirror image as written. What ability scores and proficiencies do you give the images--the spell only gives their AC? More theoretically, does making the images susceptible to AoE spells not tip it back toward "screw[ing] over martials," who by and large have no way of reliably damaging the caster and potentially destroying all three images in a single turn?</p><p></p><p>I don't have a problem with anyone house-ruling anything they like in the game, though I personally would not want to play in a game where mirror image was completely rewritten. What I am really objecting to here is your insistence that there are profound and intractable flaws in the wording of these spells which make them behave erratically or absurdly if played as written. There are not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cognomen's Cassowary, post: 7104120, member: 6801445"] All right. Eldritch blast does force damage. Eldritch blast requires attack rolls. Disintegrate does force damage. Disintegrate can be evaded. You have made a capricious and arbitrary rationalization. Yet it is mechanically different from eldritch blast and disintegrate, and you offer no explanation as to why. You have made a capricious and arbitrary rationalization. Its situational awareness and self-direction extend this far [I]but no further[/I]. You have made a capricious and arbitrary rationalization. And [I]never misses[/I], necessitating the in-fiction explanation that the caster is much better with this one attack than with every single other one. You have made a capricious and arbitrary rationalization. Re-read those two sentences as you placed them in juxtaposition. Can you honestly not see the problem in saying that the spell avoids all cover, discerns its target, and never misses [I]without[/I] having some kind of homing capability? So. No. This is you rationalizing the spell as it is written playing the way you think it should play. You mean the [I]image[/I] of the target you selected. Tell me, how do you play magic missile against a target who has blur up? I am also curious about your allowing the images to be destroyed by save-based spells, and not just because that is expressly counter to mirror image as written. What ability scores and proficiencies do you give the images--the spell only gives their AC? More theoretically, does making the images susceptible to AoE spells not tip it back toward "screw[ing] over martials," who by and large have no way of reliably damaging the caster and potentially destroying all three images in a single turn? I don't have a problem with anyone house-ruling anything they like in the game, though I personally would not want to play in a game where mirror image was completely rewritten. What I am really objecting to here is your insistence that there are profound and intractable flaws in the wording of these spells which make them behave erratically or absurdly if played as written. There are not. [/QUOTE]
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