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Magic Shield's "Bashing" Ability [Vetoed]
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<blockquote data-quote="Rae ArdGaoth" data-source="post: 3426220" data-attributes="member: 21064"><p>I propose a modification (an errata, actually) to the magical Bashing ability of shields.</p><p></p><p>--------------</p><p><strong>Bashing</strong></p><p>A shield with this special ability is designed to perform a shield bash. A bashing shield deals damage as if it were a weapon of two size categories larger (a Medium light shield thus deals 1d6 points of damage and a Medium heavy shield deals 1d8 points of damage). The shield also gains a +1 weapon enhancement, to be applied when used for a shield bash. This functions exactly as if the shield were a +1 magic weapon (so improving it to +2 would cost 6000gp). (Only light and heavy shields can have this ability.)</p><p></p><p>Moderate transmutation; CL 8th; Craft Magic Arms and Armor, bull’s strength; Price +1 bonus.</p><p>--------------</p><p></p><p>This is based on two arguments:</p><p></p><p>1st) When upgrading a +1 shield to a +1 shield of bashing, you pay 3000gp. I argue that the damage die increase is worth 1000gp and the weapon enhancement bonus is worth 2000gp, and that the weapon enhancement bonus should thus be exactly the same as enchanting the weapon with a +1 bonus since it costs exactly the same amount.</p><p></p><p>2nd) The text, as is, says "The shield acts as a +1 weapon when used to bash." Which, when interpreted literally, means that even if you spent 50,000gp on getting a +5 weapon enhancement on the shield, the shield still "acts as a +1 weapon when used to bash", which is absurd.</p><p></p><p></p><p>[sblock=Alternate Form: ]If you strongly disagree with the 1st argument, at least consider this revision which deals only with the 2nd argument:</p><p></p><p><strong>Bashing</strong></p><p>A shield with this special ability is designed to perform a shield bash. A bashing shield deals damage as if it were a weapon of two size categories larger (a Medium light shield thus deals 1d6 points of damage and a Medium heavy shield deals 1d8 points of damage). The shield also gains a +1 weapon enhancement, to be applied when used for a shield bash. This does not stack with any weapon enhancement on the shield, only the higher bonus applies. (Only light and heavy shields can have this ability.)</p><p></p><p>Moderate transmutation; CL 8th; Craft Magic Arms and Armor, bull’s strength; Price +1 bonus.</p><p>[/sblock]</p><p>[sblock=Original Text, from SRD][/sblock]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rae ArdGaoth, post: 3426220, member: 21064"] I propose a modification (an errata, actually) to the magical Bashing ability of shields. -------------- [b]Bashing[/b] A shield with this special ability is designed to perform a shield bash. A bashing shield deals damage as if it were a weapon of two size categories larger (a Medium light shield thus deals 1d6 points of damage and a Medium heavy shield deals 1d8 points of damage). The shield also gains a +1 weapon enhancement, to be applied when used for a shield bash. This functions exactly as if the shield were a +1 magic weapon (so improving it to +2 would cost 6000gp). (Only light and heavy shields can have this ability.) Moderate transmutation; CL 8th; Craft Magic Arms and Armor, bull’s strength; Price +1 bonus. -------------- This is based on two arguments: 1st) When upgrading a +1 shield to a +1 shield of bashing, you pay 3000gp. I argue that the damage die increase is worth 1000gp and the weapon enhancement bonus is worth 2000gp, and that the weapon enhancement bonus should thus be exactly the same as enchanting the weapon with a +1 bonus since it costs exactly the same amount. 2nd) The text, as is, says "The shield acts as a +1 weapon when used to bash." Which, when interpreted literally, means that even if you spent 50,000gp on getting a +5 weapon enhancement on the shield, the shield still "acts as a +1 weapon when used to bash", which is absurd. [sblock=Alternate Form: ]If you strongly disagree with the 1st argument, at least consider this revision which deals only with the 2nd argument: [b]Bashing[/b] A shield with this special ability is designed to perform a shield bash. A bashing shield deals damage as if it were a weapon of two size categories larger (a Medium light shield thus deals 1d6 points of damage and a Medium heavy shield deals 1d8 points of damage). The shield also gains a +1 weapon enhancement, to be applied when used for a shield bash. This does not stack with any weapon enhancement on the shield, only the higher bonus applies. (Only light and heavy shields can have this ability.) Moderate transmutation; CL 8th; Craft Magic Arms and Armor, bull’s strength; Price +1 bonus. [/sblock] [sblock=Original Text, from SRD][/sblock] [/QUOTE]
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