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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7055736" data-attributes="member: 20564"><p>Umm, since I only suggested INT to Initiative I'll assume you were refering to some other poster about the rest. But I will answer it.</p><p></p><p>I agree that I wouldn't let a DM tell me how to play my character. But I wouldn't be annoyed if when playing a dump-INT character if my "brilliant plan" turned out to be anything but even if it was an actual brilliant plan.</p><p></p><p>Bob wants to play a charismatic character but isn't a good speaker himself. He's got a high CHR and is trained in persuade, so even though he's only mildly persuasive a good roll and he can convince folks. My 8 CHR half-orc without a social skill to his name, might find the opposite - even if I'm persuasive the NPCs might not react well to what I am saying if I flub my rolls. In both cases I would expect bonuses or penalties to the rolls based on how good the actual talking was, but I also understand that it's the character in the world, not me, and they are also represented by mechanics.</p><p></p><p>By the same deal, if I was roleplaying a character with INT as my dump stat and I came up with a brilliant plan - great tactics, playing on a gnoll tribe's cultural fears, and utilizing the terrain, and then flubbed the INT roll, I wouldn't mind the DM reacting in kind - hey, these are a different gnoll clan that don't share the culture, part of the terrain we couldn't see doesn't work out to help my plan and the like - regardless if that was "true" before. Because my character can and would mess up the details, and the failed roll showed that I did.</p><p></p><p>So while I agree that I wouldn't accept a DM telling me I'm playing my character wrong, I would accept my character BEING wrong because I built him stupid.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blue, post: 7055736, member: 20564"] Umm, since I only suggested INT to Initiative I'll assume you were refering to some other poster about the rest. But I will answer it. I agree that I wouldn't let a DM tell me how to play my character. But I wouldn't be annoyed if when playing a dump-INT character if my "brilliant plan" turned out to be anything but even if it was an actual brilliant plan. Bob wants to play a charismatic character but isn't a good speaker himself. He's got a high CHR and is trained in persuade, so even though he's only mildly persuasive a good roll and he can convince folks. My 8 CHR half-orc without a social skill to his name, might find the opposite - even if I'm persuasive the NPCs might not react well to what I am saying if I flub my rolls. In both cases I would expect bonuses or penalties to the rolls based on how good the actual talking was, but I also understand that it's the character in the world, not me, and they are also represented by mechanics. By the same deal, if I was roleplaying a character with INT as my dump stat and I came up with a brilliant plan - great tactics, playing on a gnoll tribe's cultural fears, and utilizing the terrain, and then flubbed the INT roll, I wouldn't mind the DM reacting in kind - hey, these are a different gnoll clan that don't share the culture, part of the terrain we couldn't see doesn't work out to help my plan and the like - regardless if that was "true" before. Because my character can and would mess up the details, and the failed roll showed that I did. So while I agree that I wouldn't accept a DM telling me I'm playing my character wrong, I would accept my character BEING wrong because I built him stupid. [/QUOTE]
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