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<blockquote data-quote="Clint_L" data-source="post: 8970495" data-attributes="member: 7035894"><p>Were those my words? That’s a curious interpretation of them. It’s almost like you are intentionally misrepresenting them to score points rather than having a good faith discussion.</p><p></p><p>If you want to actually discuss my position, which is doubtful, it’s that:</p><p></p><p>1.I think martial classes are currently competitive with spell using classes. Specifically, I would put monks at tier D/C, rogues at tier C/B, and fighter/barbarian at tier A/S.</p><p></p><p>2. This is supported by what I witness as an experienced DM.</p><p></p><p>3. This is supported by most tier rankings made by others, including those with a large number of respondents.</p><p></p><p>4. Therefore, giving that entire category a bunch of free feats would be unbalancing and unfair. You could make a case for monks and, to a lesser degree, rogues, but those are class specific issues that could be addressed in other ways. Actually, extra feats is not a bad idea for rogues, but monks have fundamental design flaws.</p><p></p><p>So if you must TLDR my position, it’s that I have seen no evidence to support the contention that martials as a broad category are struggling and so I would not want such a blanket solution at my table. YVMV. </p><p></p><p>If you think it is poor logic to expect evidence for a premise, then I don’t know what tell you. We disagree about logic. </p><p></p><p>I suspect that you are not actually looking for nuanced discussion, though. In that case, please carry on with your straw man attack.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Clint_L, post: 8970495, member: 7035894"] Were those my words? That’s a curious interpretation of them. It’s almost like you are intentionally misrepresenting them to score points rather than having a good faith discussion. If you want to actually discuss my position, which is doubtful, it’s that: 1.I think martial classes are currently competitive with spell using classes. Specifically, I would put monks at tier D/C, rogues at tier C/B, and fighter/barbarian at tier A/S. 2. This is supported by what I witness as an experienced DM. 3. This is supported by most tier rankings made by others, including those with a large number of respondents. 4. Therefore, giving that entire category a bunch of free feats would be unbalancing and unfair. You could make a case for monks and, to a lesser degree, rogues, but those are class specific issues that could be addressed in other ways. Actually, extra feats is not a bad idea for rogues, but monks have fundamental design flaws. So if you must TLDR my position, it’s that I have seen no evidence to support the contention that martials as a broad category are struggling and so I would not want such a blanket solution at my table. YVMV. If you think it is poor logic to expect evidence for a premise, then I don’t know what tell you. We disagree about logic. I suspect that you are not actually looking for nuanced discussion, though. In that case, please carry on with your straw man attack. [/QUOTE]
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