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Masterwork Mithril, Armor check penalty?
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<blockquote data-quote="Wolf72" data-source="post: 89307" data-attributes="member: 265"><p><strong>argh!!!!</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>not v you coyote ... just argh in general ... </p><p></p><p>1. <strong>I think</strong> that mithral/adamantium (any special materials) are always considered MW ... at least in regards to enhancement (or is it enchantment?) ... (hold sec let me grab my DMG ... more argh)</p><p></p><p>2. okay adamantium (in the DMG) armor has the MW price included ... mithral does not (that makes <strong>NO</strong> sense, see point 4) ... The darkwood shield even includes MW pricing ... </p><p></p><p>3. the adamantium weapons include MW price ...</p><p></p><p>4. both mithral and adamantine (oops I've been writing -ium) have the same exact text saying that MW quality DOES NOT affect the enhancement bonus of weapons or the armor check penalty of armor [so how could they stack???]</p><p></p><p>options:</p><p>a. there are normal and MW versions of these ... this means that only the MW versions can be enhanced (I like this one ... give out semi-powerful stuff that can't be upgraded)</p><p></p><p>b. they are MW but do not get any MW qualities except for being able to be enhanced (wow that just sounds like really bad english)</p><p></p><p>c. the MW enhancement does not stack ... so adamantine armor would get the -1 ACP ... and mithral weapons would get the +1 attk. Adamantine weapons and mithral armor would not get any other benefits (besides enhancement)</p><p></p><p>d. (the secret answer): [insert house rule here]</p><p></p><p>*********</p><p></p><p>ps: I think the prices based on weight, darkwood and mithral, are based off of the orignial weight ... so a 15lb weapon would be priced on that weight not the 7.5 after the weight reduction</p><p></p><p>pps: If you use the idea that mithral is MW (and enhanceable), don't forget to add in an additional 150gp.</p><p></p><p>could someone paraphrase this and send it to the Sage? (hopefully better worded than what I have here)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wolf72, post: 89307, member: 265"] [b]argh!!!![/b] not v you coyote ... just argh in general ... 1. [b]I think[/b] that mithral/adamantium (any special materials) are always considered MW ... at least in regards to enhancement (or is it enchantment?) ... (hold sec let me grab my DMG ... more argh) 2. okay adamantium (in the DMG) armor has the MW price included ... mithral does not (that makes [b]NO[/b] sense, see point 4) ... The darkwood shield even includes MW pricing ... 3. the adamantium weapons include MW price ... 4. both mithral and adamantine (oops I've been writing -ium) have the same exact text saying that MW quality DOES NOT affect the enhancement bonus of weapons or the armor check penalty of armor [so how could they stack???] options: a. there are normal and MW versions of these ... this means that only the MW versions can be enhanced (I like this one ... give out semi-powerful stuff that can't be upgraded) b. they are MW but do not get any MW qualities except for being able to be enhanced (wow that just sounds like really bad english) c. the MW enhancement does not stack ... so adamantine armor would get the -1 ACP ... and mithral weapons would get the +1 attk. Adamantine weapons and mithral armor would not get any other benefits (besides enhancement) d. (the secret answer): [insert house rule here] ********* ps: I think the prices based on weight, darkwood and mithral, are based off of the orignial weight ... so a 15lb weapon would be priced on that weight not the 7.5 after the weight reduction pps: If you use the idea that mithral is MW (and enhanceable), don't forget to add in an additional 150gp. could someone paraphrase this and send it to the Sage? (hopefully better worded than what I have here) [/QUOTE]
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