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<blockquote data-quote="ClaytonCross" data-source="post: 7516474" data-attributes="member: 6880599"><p>That said, I have a decent warlock with Agonizing Blast + Hex + Rod of the pact keeper II and miss all the time and roll a lot of ones for damage so end up being generally very low on damage not because the build is bad but because I am consistently unlucky with my roles. So while I recognize the actual result and paper result my differ greatly, to me the paper result is a good metric for enticing players into trying different things or scaring them away from something because you can't measure luck until after the character is in play. </p><p></p><p>I am not disagreeing with you. I am just saying, we do what we can. Their is no such thing as perfection in a random number game but their can be recognition that something is not used because on paper its is weaker and lacks identity. When a player says something like "ya I kind of wanted to go two-handed for the cool factor, but I think I would have better damage with a two-handed weapon or better AC with a shield. I will likely go with one of them not to hold the group back once we figure out what the group needs" … then the reply "Well you never know how the dice will role" does really do much to change their mind or relieve their fear. The paper is usually a stronger argument and really "more hits" is not really unique mechanically to all the other ways to get more hits. So I understand the though possess behind M. Mearl's attempt and do think the removal of a bonus action and some identity chance would not be in any way a bad thing. The question if "is it needed?" will always be per table metric that we can't really quantify. If I ran the same test at my table for the same number of hours am 100% sure that we would have different numbers entirely... what those numbers would be or if they would even be comparable at my on table if I did it a second time... that I can't say. I have not idea. I am also not sure that without the resources of hundreds of tables I could gather meaningful date or that if I did, it would still be meaningful at my table. Again, we do what we can with what we know and have.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ClaytonCross, post: 7516474, member: 6880599"] That said, I have a decent warlock with Agonizing Blast + Hex + Rod of the pact keeper II and miss all the time and roll a lot of ones for damage so end up being generally very low on damage not because the build is bad but because I am consistently unlucky with my roles. So while I recognize the actual result and paper result my differ greatly, to me the paper result is a good metric for enticing players into trying different things or scaring them away from something because you can't measure luck until after the character is in play. I am not disagreeing with you. I am just saying, we do what we can. Their is no such thing as perfection in a random number game but their can be recognition that something is not used because on paper its is weaker and lacks identity. When a player says something like "ya I kind of wanted to go two-handed for the cool factor, but I think I would have better damage with a two-handed weapon or better AC with a shield. I will likely go with one of them not to hold the group back once we figure out what the group needs" … then the reply "Well you never know how the dice will role" does really do much to change their mind or relieve their fear. The paper is usually a stronger argument and really "more hits" is not really unique mechanically to all the other ways to get more hits. So I understand the though possess behind M. Mearl's attempt and do think the removal of a bonus action and some identity chance would not be in any way a bad thing. The question if "is it needed?" will always be per table metric that we can't really quantify. If I ran the same test at my table for the same number of hours am 100% sure that we would have different numbers entirely... what those numbers would be or if they would even be comparable at my on table if I did it a second time... that I can't say. I have not idea. I am also not sure that without the resources of hundreds of tables I could gather meaningful date or that if I did, it would still be meaningful at my table. Again, we do what we can with what we know and have. [/QUOTE]
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