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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5837580" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Things that don't yet exist.</p><p></p><p>Halberd: Similar polearms existed (voulge), but final form is a 14th century variant.</p><p>Spetum: Variants (ranseur) exist into antiquity, but appears in the 13th century.</p><p>Bardiche: Appears probably in the 13th century.</p><p>Bastard Sword: The historical 'long sword' is the D&D bastard sword. What is called the longsword is in fact an arming or war sword and is current in the 12th century. </p><p>Rapier/Small Sword/Cut and Thrust Sword: No early than the 16th century</p><p>War Hammer/Military Pick: Developed in response to plate. Not seen really before the 13th century.</p><p>Bec de Corbin/Lucerne Hammer: Another weapon developed in response to plate.</p><p>Estoc: Another anti-plate weapon. Dates to the 14th century.</p><p>Two-Handed Sword/Greatsword/Claymore: Dates to the 14th century or possibly late 13th, though not really common until Pikes are again deployed in numbers in the 15th century.</p><p>Morningstar: May have been known earlier, but doesn't appear to be in widespread use until the 14th century. Earlier weapons should be treated as maces.</p><p>Flail: Agricultural tools have been improvised as weapons since antiquity, but purpose built war flails don't seem to have been used until the 14th century.</p><p></p><p>Obselete/Forgotten</p><p>Falx, Pike, Rhomphaia, Khopesh, Sling(?)</p><p></p><p>The sling was the longbow of its day. It's still probably known in the middle ages, but to be employed as a military weapon you require a large population trained in the weapon since practically birth. Even in antiquity, you pretty much could only field slingers if you could levy or hire troops from Sicily or Judea, much as throughout European history, you could pretty much only field longbows if you could levy troops from Wales and adjacent parts of England. The pike required professional heavy infantry, which really doesn't exist in this period.</p><p></p><p>Armors</p><p></p><p>Bronze Plate refers to the Greek style heavy armor used by Hoplites. It's not in use in the middle ages.</p><p>Brigandine: Not really used in Europe until after contacts with the Mongols in the 13th century.</p><p>Plate: 13th century.</p><p>Banded: Known to antiquity 'lorica segmentata', articulated plates aren't used in 12th century Europe</p><p></p><p>Fantasy Weapons</p><p>Spiked Chain, Double Bladed Sword, Dire Flail, etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5837580, member: 4937"] Things that don't yet exist. Halberd: Similar polearms existed (voulge), but final form is a 14th century variant. Spetum: Variants (ranseur) exist into antiquity, but appears in the 13th century. Bardiche: Appears probably in the 13th century. Bastard Sword: The historical 'long sword' is the D&D bastard sword. What is called the longsword is in fact an arming or war sword and is current in the 12th century. Rapier/Small Sword/Cut and Thrust Sword: No early than the 16th century War Hammer/Military Pick: Developed in response to plate. Not seen really before the 13th century. Bec de Corbin/Lucerne Hammer: Another weapon developed in response to plate. Estoc: Another anti-plate weapon. Dates to the 14th century. Two-Handed Sword/Greatsword/Claymore: Dates to the 14th century or possibly late 13th, though not really common until Pikes are again deployed in numbers in the 15th century. Morningstar: May have been known earlier, but doesn't appear to be in widespread use until the 14th century. Earlier weapons should be treated as maces. Flail: Agricultural tools have been improvised as weapons since antiquity, but purpose built war flails don't seem to have been used until the 14th century. Obselete/Forgotten Falx, Pike, Rhomphaia, Khopesh, Sling(?) The sling was the longbow of its day. It's still probably known in the middle ages, but to be employed as a military weapon you require a large population trained in the weapon since practically birth. Even in antiquity, you pretty much could only field slingers if you could levy or hire troops from Sicily or Judea, much as throughout European history, you could pretty much only field longbows if you could levy troops from Wales and adjacent parts of England. The pike required professional heavy infantry, which really doesn't exist in this period. Armors Bronze Plate refers to the Greek style heavy armor used by Hoplites. It's not in use in the middle ages. Brigandine: Not really used in Europe until after contacts with the Mongols in the 13th century. Plate: 13th century. Banded: Known to antiquity 'lorica segmentata', articulated plates aren't used in 12th century Europe Fantasy Weapons Spiked Chain, Double Bladed Sword, Dire Flail, etc. [/QUOTE]
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