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<blockquote data-quote="Von Ether" data-source="post: 7715382" data-attributes="member: 15582"><p>Right, like<a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=average+salary+registered+nurse&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS720US720&oq=average+salary+regestered+&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.8005j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8" target="_blank"> Registered Nurses</a> who make over $60k a year plus benefits for 36 hours a week. And then there's the standard joke about how much Business Consultants get paid for just giving an hour lecture in the conference room or being a keynote speaker (travel and per deim included.) Most creatives have a "day rate," which incentives them to finish the gig in under 8 hours so they squeeze in foundation work for the next project tomorrow. </p><p></p><p>Both Consultants and Creatives also hike their rates for the lack of benefits. </p><p></p><p>It's all about perceived value in the right market. Graphic Artists and Make Up/Drug companies are good examples of this. Many companies sell the same product with different packaging and brand names to different sales vectors at different prices. OTOH, if I had a dollar for every older Graphic Artist I heard lamenting on how they used to make $60k a year when Quark Express was a mysterious black box to most folks. Now that you can get InDeisgn classes in any community college, GAs are lucky to make half that. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, it's all about perceived value, but I know of a guy who's done just <a href="https://www.margaritaville.com/" target="_blank">that</a>, but his shtick was playing guitar and singing. Also most good local restaurants know the best way to have you come back is to give you exactly that illusion. First step, memorize your name.</p><p></p><p>Saying that paying x amount (or any amount) for a DM is silly is <em>not </em>wrong, but it's not correct either. Just remember that there are plenty of people who think the same about writing a book, painting a landscape and any other creative endeavor. </p><p></p><p>I've met some people who think that every artistic outlet should be a part-time hobby and the idea that <em>anyone </em>who manages to do it full-time is essentially a con-artist avoiding doing honest work. (Any one who's every said, "How cool would it be to make a living writing/painting/etc," but never picks up a pen/brush subconsciously thinks along similar lines.)</p><p></p><p>I assume most people's attitude for art are a little more middle of the road than that, but remember the same could have been about game writing back in the day. </p><p></p><p>And as long as the attitude remains that it can only be a hobby, it can't branch out into new directions might offer compensation for those who are really good at it. (Remember this isn't an exclusive outcome we're talking here.)</p><p></p><p>As a sidenote on perceived value of artistic things going <em>up </em>over the years; back when when Ol' Shakey put all of his plays into a book, most people thought he was being pretentious because plays were cheap pop entertainment in his day. </p><p></p><p>Why do I have a feeling I should have double checked my proofreading and just submitted this for an EN World article? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Von Ether, post: 7715382, member: 15582"] Right, like[URL="https://www.google.com/search?q=average+salary+registered+nurse&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS720US720&oq=average+salary+regestered+&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.8005j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8"] Registered Nurses[/URL] who make over $60k a year plus benefits for 36 hours a week. And then there's the standard joke about how much Business Consultants get paid for just giving an hour lecture in the conference room or being a keynote speaker (travel and per deim included.) Most creatives have a "day rate," which incentives them to finish the gig in under 8 hours so they squeeze in foundation work for the next project tomorrow. Both Consultants and Creatives also hike their rates for the lack of benefits. It's all about perceived value in the right market. Graphic Artists and Make Up/Drug companies are good examples of this. Many companies sell the same product with different packaging and brand names to different sales vectors at different prices. OTOH, if I had a dollar for every older Graphic Artist I heard lamenting on how they used to make $60k a year when Quark Express was a mysterious black box to most folks. Now that you can get InDeisgn classes in any community college, GAs are lucky to make half that. Again, it's all about perceived value, but I know of a guy who's done just [URL="https://www.margaritaville.com/"]that[/URL], but his shtick was playing guitar and singing. Also most good local restaurants know the best way to have you come back is to give you exactly that illusion. First step, memorize your name. Saying that paying x amount (or any amount) for a DM is silly is [I]not [/I]wrong, but it's not correct either. Just remember that there are plenty of people who think the same about writing a book, painting a landscape and any other creative endeavor. I've met some people who think that every artistic outlet should be a part-time hobby and the idea that [I]anyone [/I]who manages to do it full-time is essentially a con-artist avoiding doing honest work. (Any one who's every said, "How cool would it be to make a living writing/painting/etc," but never picks up a pen/brush subconsciously thinks along similar lines.) I assume most people's attitude for art are a little more middle of the road than that, but remember the same could have been about game writing back in the day. And as long as the attitude remains that it can only be a hobby, it can't branch out into new directions might offer compensation for those who are really good at it. (Remember this isn't an exclusive outcome we're talking here.) As a sidenote on perceived value of artistic things going [I]up [/I]over the years; back when when Ol' Shakey put all of his plays into a book, most people thought he was being pretentious because plays were cheap pop entertainment in his day. Why do I have a feeling I should have double checked my proofreading and just submitted this for an EN World article? ;) [/QUOTE]
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