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<blockquote data-quote="Velderan" data-source="post: 8853466" data-attributes="member: 7038056"><p>I agree to a certain extent with the bolded part. Paying for a level boost allows you to skip part of the "Grind to Max" part if we're also factoring in gearing as part of that. If we're considering gearing part of the "Farm to Raid" step, then yeah, I'd 100% agree with paid level boosts allowing you to completely skip the "Grind to Max" step. </p><p></p><p>Buying a WoW Token and selling that for in-game gold allows you to skip the "Farm to Raid" step of getting consumables and enchants paid for, but as [USER=11760]@Whizbang Dustyboots[/USER] pointed out it also basically killed gold-buying so there's an argument to be made that it didn't cause any damage that wasn't already being caused somewhere else. </p><p></p><p>The WoW token (or buying gold) allows you to skip the "Raid for Loot" step if you just pay someone to carry you through the hardest content for gear. In TBC Classic while there isn't a WoW Token for sale, gold-buying is definitely a thing and it wasn't unknown to see a fresh 70 warrior with a mix of blue and green gear with a pair of Warglaives because they paid for them in a GDKP. Same thing in the current game with rewards from Mythic raids being sold off in Trade chat for gold. Want a Mythic+ timed key completed? Gold can get that for you too. Didn't like grinding Choregast in Shadowlands? Gold can get that done quickly too. I just don't know if I'd blame the WoW Token for these issues because if it wasn't there, people would just pay some website cash to sell them gold anyhow.</p><p></p><p>Paying for cosmetics/mounts being harmful? Eh... idk. They don't sell anything for cash that you can earn in-game that I'm aware of and as [USER=11760]@Whizbang Dustyboots[/USER] said you pretty much immediately know who paid $25 for a sparkly horse when you see them.</p><p></p><p>Paying for character change services degrading the community? Leveling is so fast now that I think if someone was unhappy with their current character/server, they'd just reroll if there wasn't an option to pay to change so I'm not sure that holds up from my experiences. People tend to reroll as whatever class/race is the flavor of the month for the current season anyhow so I don't think there's much character attachment to begin with. Years ago, I played Final Fantasy XI which allowed you to level all of the jobs (classes) on the same character and the server community ended up stronger because you formed more of an identity/reputation playing the same character for years. WoW imo doesn't have the same sense of community because people switch characters so much and I don't know that paid services causes any significant harm to that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Velderan, post: 8853466, member: 7038056"] I agree to a certain extent with the bolded part. Paying for a level boost allows you to skip part of the "Grind to Max" part if we're also factoring in gearing as part of that. If we're considering gearing part of the "Farm to Raid" step, then yeah, I'd 100% agree with paid level boosts allowing you to completely skip the "Grind to Max" step. Buying a WoW Token and selling that for in-game gold allows you to skip the "Farm to Raid" step of getting consumables and enchants paid for, but as [USER=11760]@Whizbang Dustyboots[/USER] pointed out it also basically killed gold-buying so there's an argument to be made that it didn't cause any damage that wasn't already being caused somewhere else. The WoW token (or buying gold) allows you to skip the "Raid for Loot" step if you just pay someone to carry you through the hardest content for gear. In TBC Classic while there isn't a WoW Token for sale, gold-buying is definitely a thing and it wasn't unknown to see a fresh 70 warrior with a mix of blue and green gear with a pair of Warglaives because they paid for them in a GDKP. Same thing in the current game with rewards from Mythic raids being sold off in Trade chat for gold. Want a Mythic+ timed key completed? Gold can get that for you too. Didn't like grinding Choregast in Shadowlands? Gold can get that done quickly too. I just don't know if I'd blame the WoW Token for these issues because if it wasn't there, people would just pay some website cash to sell them gold anyhow. Paying for cosmetics/mounts being harmful? Eh... idk. They don't sell anything for cash that you can earn in-game that I'm aware of and as [USER=11760]@Whizbang Dustyboots[/USER] said you pretty much immediately know who paid $25 for a sparkly horse when you see them. Paying for character change services degrading the community? Leveling is so fast now that I think if someone was unhappy with their current character/server, they'd just reroll if there wasn't an option to pay to change so I'm not sure that holds up from my experiences. People tend to reroll as whatever class/race is the flavor of the month for the current season anyhow so I don't think there's much character attachment to begin with. Years ago, I played Final Fantasy XI which allowed you to level all of the jobs (classes) on the same character and the server community ended up stronger because you formed more of an identity/reputation playing the same character for years. WoW imo doesn't have the same sense of community because people switch characters so much and I don't know that paid services causes any significant harm to that. [/QUOTE]
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