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Mike Mearls on how D&D 4E could have looked
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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 7764185" data-attributes="member: 82504"><p>Note I picture wrestling death as what herakles did getting sloshed on really expensive liquors in spite of having an incredible resistance to them so he was seeing things stumbling to the side of the very recently dead person and catching death (not Hades) as he arrives to carry off the soul. If there were a party involved most of them might be fighting blind they see the Herakles type picked up and thrown by invisible forces and going wait I thought he was just drunk... and they start trying to help fight death who has become concrete because of the herakles like character.... it would likely involve karma points and expensive liquor not incense and the like. The damage death deals would be akin to healing surge costs. </p><p></p><p>I think it could be inserted in many stories without utterly interrupting them </p><p></p><p>This is not the journey to the other world but that can happen any time it has a narrower window of opportunity and follows similar tropes about doing it for non-heros being easier (hence less karma and similar)</p><p></p><p>Bringing it all together you get Fallen hero / Flashbacks / Mourning including excess drinking that climaxes with an extra fail forward battle - not necessarily an otherworld journey... </p><p></p><p>But what if as the DM I wanted to have that bigger interruption and they really don't have the Karma points handy? maybe when the death angel slips out of his grip while he is wrestling and pulls the soul into the other world the Herakles type dives through the invisible gateway.... do the other heros follow in the moments it remains open? If not maybe they get someone else to suss out the path into the other world to try and get both back when they realize Herakles might have bit off more than he can chew.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 7764185, member: 82504"] Note I picture wrestling death as what herakles did getting sloshed on really expensive liquors in spite of having an incredible resistance to them so he was seeing things stumbling to the side of the very recently dead person and catching death (not Hades) as he arrives to carry off the soul. If there were a party involved most of them might be fighting blind they see the Herakles type picked up and thrown by invisible forces and going wait I thought he was just drunk... and they start trying to help fight death who has become concrete because of the herakles like character.... it would likely involve karma points and expensive liquor not incense and the like. The damage death deals would be akin to healing surge costs. I think it could be inserted in many stories without utterly interrupting them This is not the journey to the other world but that can happen any time it has a narrower window of opportunity and follows similar tropes about doing it for non-heros being easier (hence less karma and similar) Bringing it all together you get Fallen hero / Flashbacks / Mourning including excess drinking that climaxes with an extra fail forward battle - not necessarily an otherworld journey... But what if as the DM I wanted to have that bigger interruption and they really don't have the Karma points handy? maybe when the death angel slips out of his grip while he is wrestling and pulls the soul into the other world the Herakles type dives through the invisible gateway.... do the other heros follow in the moments it remains open? If not maybe they get someone else to suss out the path into the other world to try and get both back when they realize Herakles might have bit off more than he can chew. [/QUOTE]
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