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<blockquote data-quote="Zaruthustran" data-source="post: 1007865" data-attributes="member: 1457"><p>They're planning a brand new game called "D&D Miniatures". It's a collectable miniatures game, directly competing with Mage Knight.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The style of packaging could more accurately be called "Mage Knight" style. Which makes a lot of sense, since like MK the new D&D Miniatures game is a collectable miniatures game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep. That's the idea, I think: introduce all those legions of rabid MK players to the D&D world, and the d20 core mechanic. I wonder if there are more MK players than D&D RPG players? It's got to be close. That's a lot--a LOT--of potential D&D customers. And, of course, a lot of potential D&D Miniatures customers.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well of course you will. Why wouldn't you continue to use your own miniatures? They're beautiful. You spent a lot of time and money on them. They're great! WotC isn't like GW; it's not like you're playing "wrong" unless you use Official D&D RPG Miniatures. <strong>In fact, I don't think there *are* official D&D RPG miniatures anymore</strong>. WotC got out of the metal mini business last year, and even then, there was no rule saying that your minis had to be WotC minis. Or even a rule that you had to use minis ar all. Incidentally, in 3.5 there's still no rule that says that minis must be used.</p><p></p><p>Remember that the playing pieces for the D&D Miniatures game are, well, playing pieces for the D&D Miniatures game. They're not miniatures for the D&D RPG. Sure, they can be used in the D&D RPG--the stat cards even have D&D RPG stats on the back side. But the figures--the playing pieces--are components of an entirely seperate game called "D&D Miniatures".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is unsuprising. A person who spends 6 hours on his personal metal min is certainly going to wind up with a better result than someone mass-painting plastic minis on an assembly line in asia.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think most D&D RPG players will do exactly that. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think the minis are terrific, even for use in the D&D RPG. I've always wanted no-hassle minis that I could safely toss in my dice bag. I prefer metal, of course, but I've been painting minis since the early 80s. And, yeah, I'm glad that I can finally stop painting--I just don't have the time anymore. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I'm really looking forward to getting a bucketful of these plastic minis for use in my D&D RPG game. Think about it--you can toss 'em, drop 'em, shove 'em around, pick 'em up with cheeto-encrusted figures, spill Mountain Dew on 'em, whatever. Just run them under soapy water and they're good as new. Easy transport, low price, and you don't have to have a heart attack every time someone bumps the table and knocks over a min. Sign me up!</p><p></p><p>But I'm more excited about the new D&D Miniatures game itself. Chainmail was fun but too dissimilar from D&D RPG and it demanded a huge time and money investment before you could actually play (cleaning, assembling, painting). With D&D Miniatures, I drop 20 bucks and I can play the game as soon as I open the box. Sounds like a winner.</p><p></p><p>-z</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zaruthustran, post: 1007865, member: 1457"] They're planning a brand new game called "D&D Miniatures". It's a collectable miniatures game, directly competing with Mage Knight. The style of packaging could more accurately be called "Mage Knight" style. Which makes a lot of sense, since like MK the new D&D Miniatures game is a collectable miniatures game. Yep. That's the idea, I think: introduce all those legions of rabid MK players to the D&D world, and the d20 core mechanic. I wonder if there are more MK players than D&D RPG players? It's got to be close. That's a lot--a LOT--of potential D&D customers. And, of course, a lot of potential D&D Miniatures customers. Well of course you will. Why wouldn't you continue to use your own miniatures? They're beautiful. You spent a lot of time and money on them. They're great! WotC isn't like GW; it's not like you're playing "wrong" unless you use Official D&D RPG Miniatures. [b]In fact, I don't think there *are* official D&D RPG miniatures anymore[/b]. WotC got out of the metal mini business last year, and even then, there was no rule saying that your minis had to be WotC minis. Or even a rule that you had to use minis ar all. Incidentally, in 3.5 there's still no rule that says that minis must be used. Remember that the playing pieces for the D&D Miniatures game are, well, playing pieces for the D&D Miniatures game. They're not miniatures for the D&D RPG. Sure, they can be used in the D&D RPG--the stat cards even have D&D RPG stats on the back side. But the figures--the playing pieces--are components of an entirely seperate game called "D&D Miniatures". This is unsuprising. A person who spends 6 hours on his personal metal min is certainly going to wind up with a better result than someone mass-painting plastic minis on an assembly line in asia. I think most D&D RPG players will do exactly that. I think the minis are terrific, even for use in the D&D RPG. I've always wanted no-hassle minis that I could safely toss in my dice bag. I prefer metal, of course, but I've been painting minis since the early 80s. And, yeah, I'm glad that I can finally stop painting--I just don't have the time anymore. :) I'm really looking forward to getting a bucketful of these plastic minis for use in my D&D RPG game. Think about it--you can toss 'em, drop 'em, shove 'em around, pick 'em up with cheeto-encrusted figures, spill Mountain Dew on 'em, whatever. Just run them under soapy water and they're good as new. Easy transport, low price, and you don't have to have a heart attack every time someone bumps the table and knocks over a min. Sign me up! But I'm more excited about the new D&D Miniatures game itself. Chainmail was fun but too dissimilar from D&D RPG and it demanded a huge time and money investment before you could actually play (cleaning, assembling, painting). With D&D Miniatures, I drop 20 bucks and I can play the game as soon as I open the box. Sounds like a winner. -z [/QUOTE]
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