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<blockquote data-quote="thzero" data-source="post: 5782649" data-attributes="member: 86754"><p>Well D&D has never been a rules-light game by any stretch of the imagination.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, sorry.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Unfortunately that's all plain marketing speak. If they are able to back that up, with a useable system that is playable, then my hat would be off to them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I would tend to agree with you, but in this case I'll admit I'm more of a pessimist than an optimist. Honestly thought I do think they have a game plan, but they are also fighting a multi-front war (i.e. WotC brass, Hasbro brass, and gamers) so I think it will depend really on how well that planx survives contact with the enemy.</p><p></p><p>I definitively prefer 3X and Pathfinder over 4e (I really can't think of much from 1e/2e that hasn't been transitioned in some form or another), no doubt about it. 4e by itself seems to be a decent game, but its not really D&D for me, nor do I really see it as the "tactical mini wargame" that others opinion it to be. That being said there are some items in 4e that would be nice to see worked into a revamped "D&D.next" game, such as healing surges, and spellcasters having the ability to cast spells like a fighter swings an axe. But on the flip side there are things they "skimped", IMO, on in 4e that could use relooking at such as the skill system where it sorta makes non-combat RP a bit more problematic (although 3e could also use slimmed down skill list too, as other variants have done). </p><p></p><p>That being said, because of the GSL, as opposed to the OGL, it does seem like if the various editions game play aren't supported in vary close proximity to the current incarnations, that 4e players may seem to get the shaft. Obviously via OGL 3x continues on in a myriad of guises, most notably Pathfinder. But what happens to 4e, does it just end up yet-another-dead-gaming-system due to licensing constraints? While I'm not a fan of the system, I'd hate to see that happen.</p><p></p><p>So who knows, I'm interested enough in what they come up with to be posting about it, but I'm not necessarily holding my breath either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thzero, post: 5782649, member: 86754"] Well D&D has never been a rules-light game by any stretch of the imagination. Yeah, sorry. Unfortunately that's all plain marketing speak. If they are able to back that up, with a useable system that is playable, then my hat would be off to them. I would tend to agree with you, but in this case I'll admit I'm more of a pessimist than an optimist. Honestly thought I do think they have a game plan, but they are also fighting a multi-front war (i.e. WotC brass, Hasbro brass, and gamers) so I think it will depend really on how well that planx survives contact with the enemy. I definitively prefer 3X and Pathfinder over 4e (I really can't think of much from 1e/2e that hasn't been transitioned in some form or another), no doubt about it. 4e by itself seems to be a decent game, but its not really D&D for me, nor do I really see it as the "tactical mini wargame" that others opinion it to be. That being said there are some items in 4e that would be nice to see worked into a revamped "D&D.next" game, such as healing surges, and spellcasters having the ability to cast spells like a fighter swings an axe. But on the flip side there are things they "skimped", IMO, on in 4e that could use relooking at such as the skill system where it sorta makes non-combat RP a bit more problematic (although 3e could also use slimmed down skill list too, as other variants have done). That being said, because of the GSL, as opposed to the OGL, it does seem like if the various editions game play aren't supported in vary close proximity to the current incarnations, that 4e players may seem to get the shaft. Obviously via OGL 3x continues on in a myriad of guises, most notably Pathfinder. But what happens to 4e, does it just end up yet-another-dead-gaming-system due to licensing constraints? While I'm not a fan of the system, I'd hate to see that happen. So who knows, I'm interested enough in what they come up with to be posting about it, but I'm not necessarily holding my breath either. [/QUOTE]
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