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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7482138" data-attributes="member: 97077"><p>If you're referring to the section you quoted previously on DMG page 239, that is very clearly referring to the player asking if a proficiency applies to an ability check the DM already called for. That is mirrored in the Basic Rules on page 58 and 59. I even provided you with an example of play from the Basic Rules (page 2) that underscored what that section meant. The DM called for an Intelligence check and the player asked if he could apply Investigation. This is very different than asking to make an ability check, which is entirely the DM's role in this game.</p><p></p><p>I know these sections very well. It's the basis for a specific approach I use at the table: I try to only ask for ability checks and the players apply the proficiency they feel is appropriate based on their understanding of the action they are attempting. "Often, players ask whether they can apply a skill proficiency to an ability check." (DMG, page 239.) Since I like to minimize the amount of questions at the table (questions aren't actions), my answer is a default "Yes," on the assumption of good faith, and the players don't need to ask.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7482138, member: 97077"] If you're referring to the section you quoted previously on DMG page 239, that is very clearly referring to the player asking if a proficiency applies to an ability check the DM already called for. That is mirrored in the Basic Rules on page 58 and 59. I even provided you with an example of play from the Basic Rules (page 2) that underscored what that section meant. The DM called for an Intelligence check and the player asked if he could apply Investigation. This is very different than asking to make an ability check, which is entirely the DM's role in this game. I know these sections very well. It's the basis for a specific approach I use at the table: I try to only ask for ability checks and the players apply the proficiency they feel is appropriate based on their understanding of the action they are attempting. "Often, players ask whether they can apply a skill proficiency to an ability check." (DMG, page 239.) Since I like to minimize the amount of questions at the table (questions aren't actions), my answer is a default "Yes," on the assumption of good faith, and the players don't need to ask. [/QUOTE]
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