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<blockquote data-quote="Gadget" data-source="post: 6443935" data-attributes="member: 23716"><p>Hmmm...it specifically says that concentration spells are maintained, that seems to be <em>something</em> that implies it works in shape change form. A Druid's physical stats are strength, dexterity, and constitution, so that's neither here nor there; and barkskin is not armor, so that does not seem to apply. The wording of the spell says it sets the AC at a minimum of 16. 16 is greater than the brown bear's 11, therefore the AC is 16. There is a raging discussion about this spell in another thread, but there is a strong contingent that asserts that the spell, as written, would not grant dex bonus to AC, or cover bonus, or even the benefit of a shield. I guess the lesson here is that Barkskin is poorly written, but that is no great revelation. </p><p></p><p>And, from what I've heard, the focus of the "Moon Circle Druid is Overpowered" argument is that they get the bear (and other, almost as powerful shapes) at 2nd level. Sure, by 5th level everything seems fine, but it is at levels 2-4 or so that the problem manifests. I have heard it said that a simple fix for the perceived issue is to not allow 1/2 CR forms until 4th or 5th level, and start the druid out with 1/4 CR forms, but that would have to be play tested.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gadget, post: 6443935, member: 23716"] Hmmm...it specifically says that concentration spells are maintained, that seems to be [I]something[/I] that implies it works in shape change form. A Druid's physical stats are strength, dexterity, and constitution, so that's neither here nor there; and barkskin is not armor, so that does not seem to apply. The wording of the spell says it sets the AC at a minimum of 16. 16 is greater than the brown bear's 11, therefore the AC is 16. There is a raging discussion about this spell in another thread, but there is a strong contingent that asserts that the spell, as written, would not grant dex bonus to AC, or cover bonus, or even the benefit of a shield. I guess the lesson here is that Barkskin is poorly written, but that is no great revelation. And, from what I've heard, the focus of the "Moon Circle Druid is Overpowered" argument is that they get the bear (and other, almost as powerful shapes) at 2nd level. Sure, by 5th level everything seems fine, but it is at levels 2-4 or so that the problem manifests. I have heard it said that a simple fix for the perceived issue is to not allow 1/2 CR forms until 4th or 5th level, and start the druid out with 1/4 CR forms, but that would have to be play tested. [/QUOTE]
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