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<blockquote data-quote="satori01" data-source="post: 2021150" data-attributes="member: 7859"><p>The glossary clearly defines Melee Weapons as : A handheld weapon designed for close combat.</p><p></p><p>Yet Table 7.5 clearly has Armor Spiker listed as melee weapons. Theoretically going by the glossary an exotic weapon such as a spike in a long braid of hair would not be a melee weapon. The Glossary is not always the best source for line in the sand, not budge an inch rules definitions.</p><p></p><p>However with that said, I do think there is one valid reason for not having Unarmed Strikes be melee weapons, so people like Egres dont try to slavish fit the "Rules as written", into allowing for Sunder or Disarm attempts on Monks or people punching or having hands<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />. You know if unarmed strikes were listed as melee weapons someone would pull that crap, I know I have players that would.</p><p></p><p>That I believe is the only difference in classification, and the only reason Unarmed attacks is a seperate catergory on table 7.5 in the PHB.</p><p></p><p>Under the Unarmed Strike paragraph for Weapon Descriptions it even states that </p><p>"the damage from an unarmed strike is considered weapon damage for the purposes of effects that give you a bonus on weapon damage rolls".</p><p></p><p>In this case they act like a duck, quake like a duck, and work just like a duck, but are not quite ducks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="satori01, post: 2021150, member: 7859"] The glossary clearly defines Melee Weapons as : A handheld weapon designed for close combat. Yet Table 7.5 clearly has Armor Spiker listed as melee weapons. Theoretically going by the glossary an exotic weapon such as a spike in a long braid of hair would not be a melee weapon. The Glossary is not always the best source for line in the sand, not budge an inch rules definitions. However with that said, I do think there is one valid reason for not having Unarmed Strikes be melee weapons, so people like Egres dont try to slavish fit the "Rules as written", into allowing for Sunder or Disarm attempts on Monks or people punching or having hands:). You know if unarmed strikes were listed as melee weapons someone would pull that crap, I know I have players that would. That I believe is the only difference in classification, and the only reason Unarmed attacks is a seperate catergory on table 7.5 in the PHB. Under the Unarmed Strike paragraph for Weapon Descriptions it even states that "the damage from an unarmed strike is considered weapon damage for the purposes of effects that give you a bonus on weapon damage rolls". In this case they act like a duck, quake like a duck, and work just like a duck, but are not quite ducks. [/QUOTE]
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