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Monoclass DPR Comparison: Eldritch Knight Archer vs Melee Arcane Trickster
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<blockquote data-quote="Esker" data-source="post: 7595248" data-attributes="member: 6966824"><p>In other words take the above but remove shadow blade? I was assuming a 2nd level slot, so the extra d8 is worth about 5 average damage there (4.5 * (to-hit + to-crit)). So the rapier-wielding swashbuckler with owlvantage would get about 46 eDPR at level 14.</p><p></p><p>But using a rapier doesn't really take advantage of fancy footwork, since the arcane trickster can already disengage with their bonus action (granted, if using shadow blade, they can't do that on the turn they cast it). What fancy footwork buys you is the ability to quasi-disengage while also making an offhand attack. If you don't have a source of advantage, that second attack is valuable because it raises the chance of landing your sneak attack by up to 25 percentage points. But if you're assuming familiar help, particularly with elven accuracy, it's worse than a single rapier: shave off ~1 eDPR for having to downgrade your main hand to a shortsword, lose ~9 eDPR because booming blade doesn't allow an offhand attack, then add back (3.5 * to-hit + to-crit) for the offhand attack. On net you're down about 7 damage on average compared to rapier + BB (though you can spread your damage between two targets if you want, which is worth something).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Esker, post: 7595248, member: 6966824"] In other words take the above but remove shadow blade? I was assuming a 2nd level slot, so the extra d8 is worth about 5 average damage there (4.5 * (to-hit + to-crit)). So the rapier-wielding swashbuckler with owlvantage would get about 46 eDPR at level 14. But using a rapier doesn't really take advantage of fancy footwork, since the arcane trickster can already disengage with their bonus action (granted, if using shadow blade, they can't do that on the turn they cast it). What fancy footwork buys you is the ability to quasi-disengage while also making an offhand attack. If you don't have a source of advantage, that second attack is valuable because it raises the chance of landing your sneak attack by up to 25 percentage points. But if you're assuming familiar help, particularly with elven accuracy, it's worse than a single rapier: shave off ~1 eDPR for having to downgrade your main hand to a shortsword, lose ~9 eDPR because booming blade doesn't allow an offhand attack, then add back (3.5 * to-hit + to-crit) for the offhand attack. On net you're down about 7 damage on average compared to rapier + BB (though you can spread your damage between two targets if you want, which is worth something). [/QUOTE]
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